Making the move to the wilderness.

[Psilosopher?]

Look, Bodhi, just the other week you were posting about "fake people & vanity" and now you're apparently planning to go native in one of the sub-continent's less-friendly regions, subsisting mostly on foreign entheogens & math books. I presume you know (given your username) the stuff about the mind being like a wayward ox? Maybe, and please don't take this the wrong way, but just maybe, you might need to tether that ox, and...take in the view for a while?

Peace. And when was the last time you had some good shrooms?!

I've been planning to go native for a long time. Way before the fake people and vanity thread. Way before I discovered the Nexus. Way before I discovered psychs in general. So yeah, take that as you will.

Here's the thing, both the ox and master are walking the same direction. They both want to go to the same place, but for different reasons. So I guess it's convenient, eh? The master can walk with the ox, and they can share the load.

Haven't had a good shroom trip in a while. That'll change soon.

I wish to remove myself from everything pertaining to people. The more I live in society, the more I realise it's not for me. I don't fit in here. I love people, I'm just not compatible with them. I long for the wilderness.

Seems like you need a break. Good luck, again. If the social animal kicks in after some time, open up a YT channel. I bet people love watching a solitary yogi as much as a primitivist.

I doubt I'll be able to do any of that. I won't have a camera, and I don't think I'll be able to maintain a YT channel.

 

[tseuq]

All the best for and on your travel bodhi! May you be welcomed with open hearts wherever you go!

Namaste ~ boom shakti!

tseuq

 

[roninsina]

I"m glad that you have some confidence with finding your way in the wilderness, but I had no idea you were heading to such a dangerous place. Intezam's words may have been a bit harsh, but may be admonishing you to reasses the wisdom of your choice in destination.

I suppose, if you feel that you will quickly become indistinguishable from some locals that don't catch a lot of heat, you may not be in danger for long?

I'm not necessarily saying that this applies to your situation, but I once rushed to my death because I didn't want to face things that had happened in my life. Well... maybe something to consider.

In any case; I truly hope you find that which you seek.

 

[Intezam]

These are like the fantasies of an evil 15 year old.....or someboday who got stuck there due to the cannawitch spell ... :x

With all due respect, I feel that this comment is counter productive and antagonistic. :x

... if it was, then we apologize...

Anyways, since the root essence of this movie (dabba) is this dialogue:

“Kabhi kabhi ghalat train bhi sahee jagah pahuncha deti hai” (Sometimes even a wrong train can get one to the right destination)

so...:thumb_up:

 

[ganesh]

My main concern is getting over the border, running out of writing materials and getting caught in the crossfire between the Indian and Chinese military.

I think your ideas are cool, but perhaps a little excessive.

Let me explain, India isn't the best of places to do this, especially the area you describe. Mind you i know of many people who live extremely simply in the Manali region. The difference is that they live in caves, or rent really cheaply.India is so cheap, that for all considerations you could live as cheaply as a few dollars a day, and find really quiet areas. What about Rishikesh? A place famous for meditating?

If you want to do this i first suggest you try first and see how you go. I'm sure you could live like a caveman as simple as humanely possible, but then you would spend all your energies in just basically surviving. I don't think even Buddha himself would agree with such a path when you have money to spend of some simple luxuries, don't you think? Sounds like you want to challenge yourself or something, but aren't there wiser ways to do so, i ask? You can find wilderness spots in what i would describe as better countries for doing this like Thailand, for example. Why not try renting somewhere in the middle of nowhere for a few months, or in South America, which is very suited also to self reflection, for reasons you should be aware of, as well as many, many, other countries.

 

[Hiyo Quicksilver]

ORANGE JUICE

 

[DmnStr8]

ORANGE JUICE

Thanks for the laugh!! Bwahahahaha!!! :lol:

 

[Psilosopher?]

I'm not necessarily saying that this applies to your situation, but I once rushed to my death because I didn't want to face things that had happened in my life. Well... maybe something to consider.

I'm not rushing to my death. I am rushing to my life.

My main concern is getting over the border, running out of writing materials and getting caught in the crossfire between the Indian and Chinese military.

I think your ideas are cool, but perhaps a little excessive.

Let me explain, India isn't the best of places to do this, especially the area you describe. Mind you i know of many people who live extremely simply in the Manali region. The difference is that they live in caves, or rent really cheaply.India is so cheap, that for all considerations you could live as cheaply as a few dollars a day, and find really quiet areas. What about Rishikesh? A place famous for meditating?

If you want to do this i first suggest you try first and see how you go. I'm sure you could live like a caveman as simple as humanely possible, but then you would spend all your energies in just basically surviving. I don't think even Buddha himself would agree with such a path when you have money to spend of some simple luxuries, don't you think? Sounds like you want to challenge yourself or something, but aren't there wiser ways to do so, i ask? You can find wilderness spots in what i would describe as better countries for doing this like Thailand, for example. Why not try renting somewhere in the middle of nowhere for a few months, or in South America, which is very suited also to self reflection, for reasons you should be aware of, as well as many, many, other countries.

It's not set in stone that I will go to Arunachal. It is my primary choice for a few reasons. The climate, the isolation, the geography. It all fits the bill. Rishikesh is too close to civilisation, as nice as that place is. Manali region is too close to the Pakistan border, and the climate is too cold for my plants. Some of my other choices are east of Chittagong in my home country, which will be a hell of a lot more easier than Arunachal.

"I'm sure you could live like a caveman as simple as humanely possible, but then you would spend all your energies in just basically surviving." For the first few months or up to a year, yes. That's my intention. Once I have everything set up, such as a constant source of food and a decent shelter, then I can focus on my self-reflection. It is only then will I start to cultivate entheogens. Until then, I will solely focus on my own survival.

 

[Intezam]

Chittagong in my home country, which will be a hell of a lot more easier than Arunachal.

:thumb_up:

 

[RhythmSpring]

I see some irony in announcing your departure from People to the DMT-Nexus, which is made up of people.

 

[Ufostrahlen]

I see some irony in announcing your departure from People to the DMT-Nexus, which is made up of people.

But after all they are ppl and sometimes you need a break. Right? He will quickly figure out, if his actions create suffering, since he got an inbuilt suffering meter.

 

[ganesh]

It's not set in stone that I will go to Arunachal. It is my primary choice for a few reasons.

Once I have everything set up, such as a constant source of food and a decent shelter, then I can focus on my self-reflection. It is only then will I start to cultivate entheogens. Until then, I will solely focus on my own survival.

Well you sound like you know what you're doing. Give it a 'try', and see how you go. Have you been to India already? Do you know that the authorities can be strict? What about Visas?

India is no 'secret' when it comes to travellers wanting to discover themselves or living like Sadhu's. Plenty of 'freaks' about, and you sound extremely organised. I just think it's so cheap that it's questionable what you hope to achieve by living so sparsely. India is THE place where you're most likely to meet many like minded people as yourselves, anyway enough ranting.

I do remember reading some good things about the Kulu valley, many years ago. Probably too busy now, who knows.I have already spent 6 months travelling in India like 15 years ago, and it's an amazing country to travel in. I cannot imagine going there and not seeing what it has to offer.

 

[fathomlessness]

Man, this has bad idea written all over it. Mainly for the fact that you have no one local with you, you don't know the language, have no wildlife training and that you have limited resources (I assume under $10,000). I have had such nomadic idealistic motivations before and there always seemed to be something that I did not prepare for that seemed to ruin if not severely dampen the whole experience. There are many alternatives to just going solo in the wild though. For instance, there are communes people live in way out in the countryside were people live for free, and entheogens are common among some of those folk.

If Ufostrahlen is right and you are from Australia then lots of farms and towns around a place called Nimbin which would be growing their own cannabis and mushrooms and caapi vines etc. I have heard many people live for free there by working for food and have found a way to escape the rate race that way. But if you wanted to be even more wild another method could be owning a 4wd which you could keep your belongings in and even sleep in if need. You can use it to travel to some very remote areas where NO ONE would be and grow all your stuff there, even set up a little hut. You could drink from stream water and plant some things while also rely on a shop every few months. Of course this need some amount of cash to support. But nothing a month or two fulltime work per year couldn't supply.

If anything ever happened to you, like a snake bite or kidnapping... It would always be better if you are closer to safety (1st world) as well as people that care about you. You would be surprised how beautiful your home country is, no need to travel so far for what you already can have with pretty much guaranteed safety.

 

[hixidom]

I admire your idea. My 2 cents is that if you want to live in the wilderness, then there are infinite secluded places in your current city. If you have the funds to pay for food indefinitely, then you might as well just pitch a tent anywhere in the woods. I mean, God's eye is not drawn to Tibet; the land is no more sacred than any other patch of earth. I also would really like to live off the grid, but "off the grid" for me simply means living somewhere where the authorities can't find me, which would be easy since I know my city so well...

There is something to say about the currencies though: A week's worth of money here might last you a month there.

 

[Psilosopher?]

Mainly for the fact that you have no one local with you, you don't know the language, have no wildlife training and that you have limited resources (I assume under $10,000).

I will have someone local with me, I do know the language, I do have wildlife training and I don't have limited resources. So yeah, that.

Reading the OP, I realise now that my plans have changed quite a lot. I'm not going to Arunachal Pradesh. I'm going to my home country, and living in the jungles there. A friend of my cousin has a garden house that belonged to his late father, and is happy for me to stay there. I'll stay there for a while until I get accustomed to the new environment. I'll still be close to society, so I can fall back on them if needed. While living in the garden house, I'll make numerous trips deep into the jungle, where I have a few locations I want to check out. One of these locations will be the site of my hermitage. Somewhere clear, flat and close to the river. I can see plenty of places on Google maps. Some are already inhabited, some are not. I will only venture out like this when I fully know the terrain and native flora.

I'm not going into this unprepared. I have numerous contingency plans. So yeah, I'll be fine.

I admire your idea. My 2 cents is that if you want to live in the wilderness, then there are infinite secluded places in your current city. If you have the funds to pay for food indefinitely, then you might as well just pitch a tent anywhere in the woods. I mean, God's eye is not drawn to Tibet; the land is no more sacred than any other patch of earth. I also would really like to live off the grid, but "off the grid" for me simply means living somewhere where the authorities can't find me, which would be easy since I know my city so well...

There is something to say about the currencies though: A week's worth of money here might last you a month there.

I need to go to my home country, so I'm not going to Tibet. DMT told me, and I must listen to my teachers advice.

 

[Intezam]

We understand you are not into that, but there is the mazaar of Bayazid Bastami in Chittagong. Sometimes Madari malangs (the faqeers that introduced Yarkand ganja to the plains Indian aka "the throne") go there. But if you meet some Madari malangs, you can carefully (and wisdomwise) introduce them to the haoma aka "beyond the game of thrones" If they could do the same for (our) haoma? WoW!

Perhaps this is a duplicate mazaar of Bayazid, but the hill tracts were so popular with the malangs that they needed one on location! (as a meeting point or "Nexus" when gathering provisions)

Bayazid marks the lightening strike advance of intoxicated tasawwuf from the sober tasawwuf of Junayd ...

Good luck and Dam Madar Beda Par

 

[Jin]

sometimes a person can be among hundreds of friends and still be alone

and the other times ......

a person can be all alone yet still be in good company

 

[FranLover]

Has this dream come true?

 

[Xt]

Metronidazole and Tinidazole for the Giardia. Electrolytes for the inevitable dehydration. 50 different ways to prepare clean water. Soap, sanitizer, first aid, GPS, a means of killing animals for food. This area you speak of is not particularly easy territory.
Maybe go backpacking North India and Nepal for six months.

Beautiful place, hard living.

 

[FranLover]

a means of killing animals for food

unnecessary, unnecessary