MAOI questions

[JBT81]

So. Hypothetically... Could one use Peganum Harmala seeds as they are for an MAOI? In this hypothetical situation there will exist a few capsules full of spice to chase capsules full of MAOI.

Or would it be more prudent to just grow the plant? And once the plant has grown how would one go about putting it into capsules to swallow? Do certain parts of the plant contain Harmala Alkaloids while others do not? I try to research this stuff on my own but it's all very shady and vague you see...

I'm guessing the later, but I thought it would be a good idea to check :lol:

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As an aside; what would happen if someone ingested a small amount of said MAOI before they ate some P. Cubensis?
I've read that chocolate can be an incredibly small source of MAOI, also it tastes great, so people eat it with their fungi.
Just curious

Thanks for your time!

 

[endlessness]

Research a bit the harmala subforum for more info

also remember to check things like our FAQ, as it has info on dosages and a lot of other stuff.

Regarding peganum harmala, you can just eat the powderized seeds, around 3.5g, for MAOI effects, but its very harsh on the stomach. I suggest at least doing a tea with it (powder, boil 3x, filtering each time and adding more water, then filtering liquid and discarding solids, reduce to manageable amount like 50ml per dose, and drink it up). But notice peganum harmala has some other alkaloids apart from harmalas, and these other alkaloids (vasicine, vasicinone, deoxyvasicine) are abortifaciant and uterotonic, so specially for women its counter-indicated (pregnant woman should NEVER take peganum harmala). These alkaloids will come across in a tea too, so you wont be separaitng them

If you want to know the dosage accurately and only have harmalas, then you have to extract them. You can do it, its quite easy and can be done with food-safe ingredients. Check the harmala extraction guide in the wiki for more info.

I dont think there would be any significant amount of MAOI in chocolate to make a difference, but it certainly wont hurt to eat chocolate with your shrooms. I would be very careful with mixing MAOI+shrooms, a lot of people feel that mixture can get way too intense (including terrence mckenna himself, funny enough). If you take harmalas+shrooms, take very small amount of shrooms first, like half a dried gram or 1g max.

 

[JBT81]

Thank you for the help and advice I'll keep these things in mind. Now, I'm off to check out those links...