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MAOI to DMT ratio

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PH0Man

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Hi all,

I was wondering what the ration between the MAOI and the DMT is suppose to be when making ayahuasca...

Also, a strong dose would be ~31g of acacia powder + .38g of Harmine hydrochloride?

Thank for any input!
 
I always advise against purchasing pre-extracted harmalas as the quality varies quite a bit and we've had hundreds of people report getting bunk material. It's really simple (and a whole lot cheaper) to just extract your own or make tea from rue or caapi, and this way you can be sure of what you are getting.

That dosage is quite a bit higher than most people would need or want to go, especially without previous experience. Always start on the low end and work your way up. You can always take more, you can't take less. In general dosage for acacia confusa root bark orally falls within the 6-10 gram range for most people and harmala dosage falls in the 100-200mg range with purified material (keep in mind harmaline is more potent than harmine if you are working with one or the other instead of both) or 2-4 grams of syrian rue or 50-100 grams of caapi.

Be safe now. :)
 
Brew a big batch of rue & acacia separately.
Keep track of how potent each is.
Ex. 100g rue reduced to 300ml. 100g/300ml = 0.33g/1ml. 3ml worth of liquid is ~1g rue. 10ml is a dose.

Do the same with the acacia brew.

Start out with the rue brew only.
Try 10ml one day. Wait a couple days & try 15ml, etc. until you find a dosage you are comfortable with. (ie. Effects can be felt but nausea is not crippling)

From there take your comfortable dose followed 15min later by 10-15ml of your acacia brew.

If it's not enough work your way up each time you drink until you reach the desired level.

Doses of harmalas & dmt are extremely variable from person to person & plant to plant.
It's best to start with a large supply of material & find the potency & what works with your body chemistry out slowly over the course of time.
 
dreamer042 said:
I always advise against purchasing pre-extracted harmalas as the quality varies quite a bit and we've had hundreds of people report getting bunk material. It's really simple (and a whole lot cheaper) to just extract your own or make tea from rue or caapi, and this way you can be sure of what you are getting.

That dosage is quite a bit higher than most people would need or want to go, especially without previous experience. Always start on the low end and work your way up. You can always take more, you can't take less. In general dosage for acacia confusa root bark orally falls within the 6-10 gram range for most people and harmala dosage falls in the 100-200mg range with purified material (keep in mind harmaline is more potent than harmine if you are working with one or the other instead of both) or 2-4 grams of syrian rue or 50-100 grams of caapi.

Be safe now. :)

I will take you advice an buy the 100g of syrian rue seeds.

In theory, couldn't I just grind the rue seeds and mix them into some water and drink, wait, and then do the same with the acacia powder? Why go through all the trouble of simmering, reducing etc?
 
PH0Man said:
Hi all,

I was wondering what the ration between the MAOI and the DMT is suppose to be when making ayahuasca...

Also, a strong dose would be ~31g of acacia powder + .38g of Harmine hydrochloride?

Thank for any input!

I used 3g Syrian Rue and 5g ACRB, and it was very overwhelming for my first time.
I can only imagine how much worse it would've been if I used that TEK suggesting 4g/10
(Ayahuasca using Syrian Rue & Acacia confusa - DMT-Nexus Wiki)

Try taking Syrian Rue alone first to dip your toes in the waters, there's no rush.

Start with 1.5g, then 2g, then 3g.

Once you get a comfortable Rue dose, you can start adding admixtures like ACRB.

!! START LOW !!
 
PH0Man said:
dreamer042 said:
I always advise against purchasing pre-extracted harmalas as the quality varies quite a bit and we've had hundreds of people report getting bunk material. It's really simple (and a whole lot cheaper) to just extract your own or make tea from rue or caapi, and this way you can be sure of what you are getting.

That dosage is quite a bit higher than most people would need or want to go, especially without previous experience. Always start on the low end and work your way up. You can always take more, you can't take less. In general dosage for acacia confusa root bark orally falls within the 6-10 gram range for most people and harmala dosage falls in the 100-200mg range with purified material (keep in mind harmaline is more potent than harmine if you are working with one or the other instead of both) or 2-4 grams of syrian rue or 50-100 grams of caapi.

Be safe now. :)

I will take you advice an buy the 100g of syrian rue seeds.

In theory, couldn't I just grind the rue seeds and mix them into some water and drink, wait, and then do the same with the acacia powder? Why go through all the trouble of simmering, reducing etc?

I answered this question in your other thread :)
Please start low, you'll thank me later :thumb_up:
 
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