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MDAI the new molley?

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1992 said:
SHroomtroll said:
I wouldnt touch any of that crap, every mdma copy substance is pure poison... seems like the effects get worse for every new one as do the side effects.

If you can´t find the real deal look harder or something.
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MDAI is devoid of neurotoxicity, as is MDPV. MDMA and BK-MDMA are, however, neurotoxic. They're all very different drugs.
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I wouldn't bet on anything, since I'm not a doctor or bio-chemist. I am going to tell you one thing...DON'T Snort any of this shit!!!.

"Holly shit, The first thing I ever snorted was mdpv. Hearing that it's relatively safe I took it in small doses. Now, this may be because I got the super pure stuff, but it eats your nose like crazy. After a couple days of use, I have permanent nasal damage. I thought maybe I was being paranoid about one side of my septum having a dimple, so I just used the other nostril and chased it with water. Well apparently this caused it to get caught in my upper nasal cavity and it tore it to shreds overnight. Luckily the damage is not to severe and it's mostly up in my nose cavity, unseen. I'm sure I would need plastic surgery if I snorted this gram, no matter how long it took. Because, as I understand, the cardalige damage is permanent.
I haven't had any problems with taking a small oral dose (diluted in water). It's more affective than Ritalin in my case. Also, it's subtle enough to keep off the compulsive re-dose."

Bummer
 
iv been working with methylone alot lately.
iv been using it to reprogram my life - to become more usefull/functional.
so far - very good - very impressed.
its soft and it opens the heart chakra
i figured out the best re-x tek for it too - il post it if im allowed to.

in my eyes methylone is an entheogen - very usefull and it always has a place in my medicine cabinet.
combo'd with spice - omg its nice - no chance of anything but comfort - which extends possibilities alot.
id reccomend it as a predose for anyone suffering from fear of spice - also 5-meo-dalt helps to get over the fear as it provides a simmilar headspace - but no visuals.
 
In my experience, MDAI is absolutely nothing like MDMA at all. I found it quite dull and uninteresting personally, and won't be seeking it again. Methylone I found a tease. It never got to that amazing place that MDMA takes you too, more of a stimulant for me. I did once combine it with mephedrone which was a nice experience, MDMA is still preferable though. I would be careful with MDPV, I wouldn't touch it personally (or pretty much any of these things anymore, have definitely had my time with them) but I think it might be quite toxic actually.

A few months back, I had a few dabs of pure MDMA crystals, the first time I have in years. It was an amazing experience of warmth and connection, I had forgotten it could be that good. Put the newer contenders to shame.

I think the neurotoxicity of MDMA is related to level of use and dosage. A little spread over a few times a year is fine I think, this way I don't get any kind of hangover or comedown whatsoever.

A more recent study from 2009, by John Hopkins Medical School found that MDMA use could lead to sleep apnea in otherwise healthy young people. This is worrying as sleep apnea itself can lead to an assortment of other health problems.

Ecstasy Use May Lead To Sleep Apnea | Journal of Advanced Practice Nursing. Nursing Journals : American Society of Registered Nurses

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SHroomtroll said:
I wouldnt touch any of that crap, every mdma copy substance is pure poison... seems like the effects get worse for every new one as do the side effects.
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That's because they started with the best few MDxx's and when they got banned, the RC vendors started with the second best, and when they got banned, they moved on and now the worst of them all are the only ones left.

They all have slightly different effects, but the major first generation XTC's wich where MDMA and MDEA, where high quality euphoriants. They lacked the depth and intensity of real psychedelic's but the euphoria they produced was absolutely pure and fantastic.

I find that a low dose of peyote, just below where it get's psychedelic, combined with a low dose of caapi produces an effect that's superiour to that of all those synth's though.

Peyote also contains an MDMA-like substance besides mescaline. If you're realy interested in XTC, isolating that substance may be an interesting thing to try.
 
Seven said:
5-Methyl-MDA seems to be next on the radar.
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Oh no, not another one. Lets try it. lol. J/k.

I'd be careful with this MDAI stuff. A friend of mine said that its so serotogenic that people were re-dosing and instead of getting high again they just got serotonin syndrome.

As for Methylone, SWIMs been playing with this one lately. After reading trip reports of people rolling on the floor in euphoria he got real excited. After testing realized there wasn't much euphoria. Last time he got the shivers. Then got real cold, probably due to the vasoconstiction of the metabolites. Very moorish too, though not as bad as Mephedrone.

alladinsgrandpa said:
the effects are much shorter compared to mdma and is MUCH speedier and almost anxious unsattisfied feel.
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I also noticed this, although I wouldn't compare it to meth. This stuff is tricky but it needs more testing. Maybe good mixed with something like molly.

polytrip said:
That's because they started with the best few MDxx's and when they got banned, the RC vendors started with the second best, and when they got banned, they moved on and now the worst of them all are the only ones left.

They all have slightly different effects, but the major first generation XTC's wich where MDMA and MDEA, where high quality euphoriants. They lacked the depth and intensity of real psychedelic's but the euphoria they produced was absolutely pure and fantastic.
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Thats probably true but it wouldn't surprise me if they stumble across something superior. There is alot of crap out there though.

I find that a low dose of peyote, just below where it get's psychedelic, combined with a low dose of caapi produces an effect that's superiour to that of all those synth's though.

Peyote also contains an MDMA-like substance besides mescaline. If you're realy interested in XTC, isolating that substance may be an interesting thing to try.
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That sounds like something to try. Never tried peyote though. Would San Pedro or peruvian be the same?
 
Eye would say mdai falls very short of mdma and/or bk-mdma. Eye can dose with 300mg of mdai and barely reach the effects of 75mg of bk-mdma. Eye'm not so certain Eye've tried pure mdma, but what Eye was given blew bk-mdma out of the water. Eye can take a high dose of bk-mdma and never get close to what a small amount of mdma did to Eye.

mdai feels nothing like bk-mdma or mdma. mdai requires a very large dose to even come close to an E experience. So, Eye don't think you were given mdai.

bk comes close to mdma, and is in the right dose range, 100-200mg, so bk or some other phen seems more plausible.
 
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