MDMA 2 days after Changa?

[Planet DMT]

Hi, I hope I am allowed to post questions in the Welcome Area forum.

I smoked Changa yesterday and I am planning to roll MDMA tomorrow.
Changa (with MAOIs) + MDMA combo is dangerous becayse it can cause Serotonin Syndrome.

How long after smoking changa do I have to wait to take MDMA? Are 2 days enough?
I'm very excited to roll molly tomorrow, it's going to be my first time and I really can't wait any longer due to excitment. There's isn't much information about my question on google so I figuered i'd ask here.

I've read that the MAOIs that changa consist of are RIMA (rima reversible inhibitors of monoamine oxidase-a) which will not stay long in your body. Also I read that smoking also makes it go faster rather than taking it orally.

So should I roll tomorrow? I want to know if it's safe.
Thanks

 

[SynKyd]

Your research is on the mark as I've come to understand the MAOI interactions from changa, but this is truly a decision that only you can make. Be safe, know what you're taking, and follow your instincts and choose your path carefully in all situations.

 

[Ufostrahlen]

If it's Harmala Changa, most of the MAOIs are out of your systems after 8h. Source: Human Pharmacology of Ayahuasca: Subjective and Cardiovascular Effects, Monoamine Metabolite Excretion, and Pharmacokinetics

2 days should be safe. You may have elevated neurotransmitter levels because of the changa, so don't take large MDMA doses.

Don't forget to ingest some Vitamin C/E before/after rolling the molly:

Summary
MDMA causes a sharp increase in oxidative hydroxyl radicals shortly after administration. It is now believed that this rise in oxidative stress is likely involved in MDMA's neurotoxicity, and may be involved in some of its negative side effects. Very high doses of injected antioxidants have been shown in rats to dramatically reduce or block MDMA neurotoxicity as well as reduce tolerance to MDMA's effects between neurotoxic doses. Based on these findings, it is possible that common vitamin antioxidants may be effective at reducing risks of MDMA neurotoxicity, hangover effect, tolerance, and general body stress.

Erowid MDMA Vault : MDMA & Antioxidants

Do Antioxidants Protect Against MDMA Hangover, Tolerance, And Neurotoxicity? December 2001, by Earth Erowid.

www.erowid.org

A light bowl at the comedown and some 5-HTP should help, too. If you lack these items, you could also go for green tea, if you don't mind the stimulation. Just have plenty of antioxidants in your system before/after MDMAing.

 

[joedirt]

2 day's should be enough, but I'm guessing you will still get some slight potentiation.
If you are worried about it take less MDMA than you were planning on taking.

 

[Varox]

Adding on your original question which has been answered already, here is the best piece of additional advice I can give you: Research-backed MDMA (Molly/Ecstasy) education

I personally take the COMPREHENSIVE - RECOMMENDED supplements with each roll and I do notice a huge difference during and after, no jaw clenching no brain flashes, I can just relax and enjoy a very nice afterglow.

Since it will be your first time and you will love it, be sure to keep your head cool. Your first MDMA experience, if done properly, will probably be touching and you will want to do it again. BUT! space out your rolls (at least 2 months) or you will not achieve the same glow as the first time. MDMA is one of my favorite substances and when done right it can be very psychedelic and profound (by this I mean set and setting and not dose). What I'm saying is, try to keep it special. Remember that it is an amphetamine and therefore it is hard on your body.

Have a great roll!