Meditating and psychedelic evolution

[RayOfLight]

So heres what happened.

I'm laying on my couch listening to some meditation mantras on you tube with my eyes closed..

I start to feel really relaxed and comfortable with the idea of smoking some dmt (I haven't' done it in a couple months ) and I decide to get up and grab my Vg.

All of a sudden I'm paralyzed in my couch in the middle of what was very similar to a dmt experience. I also started chanting and that seemed to deepen the experience .

now what the hell was that?

I dunno but Ive also been able to get visuals while lying in bed before I sleep.. very strange dmt like visuals just not as vivid or intense .

Am I evolving into a more psychedelically adept being ?

this effect seems to be gaining power.

anyone else?

 

[Enoon]

related to sleep paralysis? visuals and auditory hallucinations as well as feeling paralysed... could be a similar phenomenon/state. Read up on it, sleep paralysis is very interesting and apparently can be induced by relaxation techniques, and can then be used to for OBE... Never have managed it though.

 

[Global]

I'm pretty sure I'm well-acquainted with the visuals you describe. Especially when I wake up, I'm immersed in a sea of patterns that while kinda DMT-like, are less vivid and less intense. What that means for the two of us in terms of evolution, I'm not sure I do know that we are far from alone on this as I've seen many other members describe the same phenomena in pretty similar words. The fact that you were physically capable of chanting makes me doubt that it was a sleep paralysis-related incident, as most people in a state of sleep paralysis are incapable of moving any voluntary muscle, including the mouth. Regardless, I'm inclined to believe that it may have had a big part to do with the mantra you were chanting. I can't remember where I read it, but whilst researching "sacred sound," apparently in addition to sound having the ability to rearrange a medium (such as sand or water to create complex and symmetrical geometric patterns), such as 528 hz and the rest of the ancient solfeggio tones, apparently certain mantras have the ability to create distinct shapes out of smoke in a smoke-filled room. Assuming this is true (I would like to know which mantras they are so I can try :roll: ), it makes you wonder just how much there are to words, as they are often dismissed as arbitrary.

 

[shoe]

meditation is definately the route you want to take with dmt. nothing else focuses the visuals, gives you incredible control over what is happening, allows you to see the problems evolve before your 3rd eye (I remember one experience I was like okay, we'll all just be happy then. so i was instantly aligned with all these happy beings simmelar to me, and then we started saying come.... join us.... be happy.... and then i realised how evil and cultish that must have seemed to the other beings. it's tricky!)

 

[pau]

another possibilty:
you were in "meditation hyperspace", and confused between that state and "normal waking consciousness". That's happened to me many, many times. Different branches of Buddhism and Vedic/Hindu traditions have names for the "world" you are in while meditating....they usually end with -kaya. While you are in that state you may be convinced that you're in your normal waking state, or you may know that you're visiting a meditation realm. And there are even various levels of these kayas you can "visit". It's all a natural part of the unfolding of one's consciousness....even if you experience being attacked by demons.

Sometimes the experiences of meditation are pretty out there, and when you "return" you may know you've been in a different realm, but sometimes the experience is very much like normal waking consciousness and you may need to think about it to figure out what happened to you and "where" you were.

I think that psychonauting and meditating together would only accelerate one's progression through these states.

 

[Global]

Are you suggesting that the times when he experiences the "mild hallucinations" that he's not actually awake, but merely in a state of meditation? If so, I would strongly disagree. I'm not quite sure that's what you're saying, but I can't quite tell.

 

[RayOfLight]

I was conscious of my surroundings and you could say I was awake.. yet half asleep at the same time.... aware of my surroundings but I was still paralyzed. I started to chant after the paralyzation had somewhat worn off, I was so intrigued with what was happening and wanted it to continue so I thought that would help, very very strange indeed.

Ive been doing alot of research into the 2012 shift in consciousness idea and am somewhat inclined to believe maybe I'm evolving... either that or the substances Ive taken are starting to have long term effects (effects i welcome fully)

 

[pau]

Before I post this thing below, I want to thank Antrocles and Art V. for sharing the most remarkable stuff with us. I am blown away by the report of his recent trip. Got busy and wasn't reading too many threads the last few weeks and just saw this one last night. We are incredibly fortunate to have access to the experiences that are shared here.

gobalswg asked:
"Are you suggesting that the times when he experiences the "mild hallucinations" that he's not actually awake, but merely in a state of meditation? If so, I would strongly disagree. I'm not quite sure that's what you're saying, but I can't quite tell."

Well, what is a hallucination? What are these nested sleep paralysis states that are like Russian dolls, that need repeated openings before you're finally back to a "final normalcy". What is hyperspace ... meditation?

I believe these things sometimes blend together as we work to return our consciousness to it's original state. Maybe more often than we're aware. RayofLight gave such an example above. Here's one that happened to me some years ago:

I was out of school, living at my parents house and was doing a lot of meditating every day. I'd just finished raking up the the leaves (autumn in the eastern US, you know, gotta get those leaves up off the lawn) and was really tired. So I went inside and laid down in my father's recliner, planning to watch some TV. He and my mom were in the room reading, and watching TV. I recline the chair and the second it hits the bottom my body starts vibrating and - I will call it an astral body for lack of a better word - my astral body, a transparent version of myself wearing the same clothes, lifts up out of my head, as if hinged to my "third eye". I look around and my folks don't notice what is happening to me ... mom still reading her book, dad watching some program on the TV, I think it was the weather forecast. I can move but preferred to look at this crazy stuff. After a minute or so, the body drifted back down into the physical me and rejoined. I hadn't had any kind of "drug" for 2 or 3 years at least.

I didn't freak out because during the previous year I'd had many "strange" things happen to me while meditating...and a few others while NOT meditating...just as bizarre as the astral body thing. But did I observe my astral body while I was also able to watch the "real" things going on in the "real" room with my "real" eyes? Or, was everything in the room of the same "astral" nature as the body, including my mom reading and the TV show, observing out of some other eyes?

I'm not sure there is a scientific answer to this, but this is why I think these various states can get mixed together. So what is the experience of a Buddha or enlightened being? What is a "state" to them?

 

[childofthetao]

You were in a state of trance experiencing hypnagogic imagery.

Could it be smoking DMT that develops ones energy system to a higher degree, allowing yor chakras a higher degree of activity (as New Energy Ways does and is in fact a healthier way to do it than DMT) or was it the mantras you listening to/repeating? They also can have this effect. Or it could be both.