Prima Materia
The Calcinator
I invite everyone and the more experienced members to add anything and correct me if I'm wrong in my speculations.
link to clean cactus tea tek : https://mycotopia.net/topic/92257-updated-clean-cactus-tea-tek/
So, I obtained 2,5kg of san pedro cactus. I decided that I will prepare the cacti for consumption. Last time I made a tea – the tea was hard to get down, part of it is indeed my fault as I could do a better job and have a more »palatable« end result.
So as I was making my research about the possibilites I thought I would do an acid/base extraction to avoid the bad tasting tea. I already made the A/B extraction one time before successfully, but had a very bad yield. I could do a better job indeed and have a better yield, but it was my very first extraction.
As I was researching and reading further I observed that generally when people do an A/B extraction with mescaline containing cacti the yields are quite low, even when the procedure was done skillfully. I compared that with the tea method and observed that if people do a good job the results seem to be better in terms of how many doses one gets from the actual cacti.
The one time I made a tea I had a 15 cm long and 3 – 4 cm diameter cacti. As you can imagine this was a small piece of cacti. I made a tea and had a great experience. It was not a strong dose – but indeed it was a good common dose. I had great visuals and great mental uplift. In general the experience was one of the most beautiful I have had. It lasted at least 10 hours.
I wonder if the experience would be that good for me if I extracted the goods via A/B method. I think not (I could be wrong of course). Also, some of the senior members here say that they had the best experiences with tea and not the A/B extraction.
I found this method on mycotopia forum and gave it a try. :
https://mycotopia.net/topic/92257-updated-clean-cactus-tea-tek/
I was not making my tea for 14 days as the author of this method here suggests, but went for the quicker way with the same principles applied. It took me 3 or 4 days. If you do it more slowly one will get better results but still I think the end product of the quicker variation is way better than the tea I did my first time.
I used 1,3 kg of cactus and managed to boil the water down to 600 ml.
If the quantity I used was dry then 1300g * 0,05 = 65g I have about 65g of dry material. Therefore if the speculated dry material contains 1% of mescaline 65g * 0,01 = 0,65g I have 650 mg of mescaline in my 600 ml of tea. That basically means that I have about two common doses. Which is not very satisfying.
At this point I'm planning to do an experiment with 100 ml just to see the actual potency of the tea. If my speculations are correct I should have a stronger experience from 100 ml of this tea compared to 650 mg / 6 = 108 mg 108 mg of extraced mescaline.
I tried 5 ml of my tea and found that it is very bitter (a great sign) and indeed more palatable than my first successful tea I mentioned before.
What do you think ?
Do we have any data on how many alkaloids might be lost with the A/B method compared to a »full spectrum« water extraction ?
link to clean cactus tea tek : https://mycotopia.net/topic/92257-updated-clean-cactus-tea-tek/
So, I obtained 2,5kg of san pedro cactus. I decided that I will prepare the cacti for consumption. Last time I made a tea – the tea was hard to get down, part of it is indeed my fault as I could do a better job and have a more »palatable« end result.
So as I was making my research about the possibilites I thought I would do an acid/base extraction to avoid the bad tasting tea. I already made the A/B extraction one time before successfully, but had a very bad yield. I could do a better job indeed and have a better yield, but it was my very first extraction.
As I was researching and reading further I observed that generally when people do an A/B extraction with mescaline containing cacti the yields are quite low, even when the procedure was done skillfully. I compared that with the tea method and observed that if people do a good job the results seem to be better in terms of how many doses one gets from the actual cacti.
The one time I made a tea I had a 15 cm long and 3 – 4 cm diameter cacti. As you can imagine this was a small piece of cacti. I made a tea and had a great experience. It was not a strong dose – but indeed it was a good common dose. I had great visuals and great mental uplift. In general the experience was one of the most beautiful I have had. It lasted at least 10 hours.
I wonder if the experience would be that good for me if I extracted the goods via A/B method. I think not (I could be wrong of course). Also, some of the senior members here say that they had the best experiences with tea and not the A/B extraction.
I found this method on mycotopia forum and gave it a try. :
https://mycotopia.net/topic/92257-updated-clean-cactus-tea-tek/
I was not making my tea for 14 days as the author of this method here suggests, but went for the quicker way with the same principles applied. It took me 3 or 4 days. If you do it more slowly one will get better results but still I think the end product of the quicker variation is way better than the tea I did my first time.
I used 1,3 kg of cactus and managed to boil the water down to 600 ml.
If the quantity I used was dry then 1300g * 0,05 = 65g I have about 65g of dry material. Therefore if the speculated dry material contains 1% of mescaline 65g * 0,01 = 0,65g I have 650 mg of mescaline in my 600 ml of tea. That basically means that I have about two common doses. Which is not very satisfying.
At this point I'm planning to do an experiment with 100 ml just to see the actual potency of the tea. If my speculations are correct I should have a stronger experience from 100 ml of this tea compared to 650 mg / 6 = 108 mg 108 mg of extraced mescaline.
I tried 5 ml of my tea and found that it is very bitter (a great sign) and indeed more palatable than my first successful tea I mentioned before.
What do you think ?
Do we have any data on how many alkaloids might be lost with the A/B method compared to a »full spectrum« water extraction ?