mescaline attempt gone wrong??

[fatmannero]

here is my situation so far on my first tek using this tek.. http://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti_chemistry2.shtml
i boiled 60g cacti down using acidic water in to a gooie tea, then stupidly jumped the process by adding about 300ml of water and bout 3 large spoonfuls of caustic soda to the tea... then i realised i should have de fatted first off, so straight away i started to add around 200ml of naptha and seperated them and now after two days of not knowing what to do, can someone advise me on a solution, i still have everything in different jars...
iv also read that leaving the alkaloids in a caustic soda mix for more than 8 hours will kill the alkaloids...
so im thinking i have to bin it all and put it down to a bad experience...gutted

can anyone come up with a fix for me please??

my meterials are... citrus acid,naptha,caustic soda,acetone??

thanks guys

 

[Yerba]

Alright, so you basified and then added naptha?

Combine the basic soup and the naptha and then re-acidify. Once the solution is acidic, you can separate and safely dispose of the naptha. The alkaloids will still be in the soup.

Then it will be necessary to basify again before pulling with a solvent such as limonene, toluene, or xylene. After mixing thoroughly but gently and allowing the layers to separate, the solvent can be pulled off and mixed with an acidic solution such as plain vinegar. Vinegar is better than citric acid, since excess vinegar can evaporate while excess citric acid will stay in your end product. Again mix thoroughly, separate, and then evaporate the water layer slowly with a fan.

It should be noted that the erowid tek is pretty old, and there may be more current information in the wiki DMT-Nexus Wiki

 

[fatmannero]

thankyou very much!!
so use vinager to make my soup re-acidic, using all the meterial and then seperate and loose the naptha??
how much vinager will do this?
thanks for your time

 

[Yerba]

Yeah, re-acidify, mix mix mix, and then discard the naptha.

As for how much vinegar, I wouldn't know. I guess a more surefire method might be to separate the naptha and then add 50ml or so of vinegar to that, mix well, and then add that vinegar back to your 'soup' and proceed as normal. That should pull any alkaloids that made it into the naptha without having to re-acidify the whole mess and then re-basify it again.

I assume you don't have a way to test pH?

 

[fatmannero]

I have got a water ph testing kit its not ideal, it tests ph 4-10..
So naphtha can't be used as a solvent then?? How bout acetone? It's hard to get xylene in the uk!!
It's good news I haven't wasted all my cacti
how about starting over with the green stuff and doing a evaporation on the naptha to see if any alkaloids are in there... is that safe to do this??

thank u guys

 

[tony]

It's hard to get xylene in the uk!!

Ebay. Cheap and arrives quickly. If I remember correctly it is available from a uk seller. Arrives within a couple of days when ive bought it.

 

[MySmelf]

Why did you make another thread to ask the same question you asked in your previous thread?

So naphtha can't be used as a solvent then?? How bout acetone? It's hard to get xylene in the uk!!

Don't use acetone it's miscible with water!!

how about starting over with the green stuff and doing a evaporation on the naptha to see if any alkaloids are in there... is that safe to do this??

Why not just salt the naphtha with your acid and evap that if your curious or add it back to your cactus solution like Yerba suggested?
Evaporating the naphtha will probably give you a lot of junk mixed with a little mesc. Not worth it IMO, just salt it.