Hi beautiful. I have been experimenting with 69ron limonene extraction. I think I have found that the longer you leave the vinegar in the Limonene for salting (shaking it every now and then) the more red in color the vinegar becomes, and in theory, the more mescaline you get out of the limonene, otherwise why would it be more red? Hours after adding vinegar, it looks clear white, if I leave it for a day the vinegar is slightly yellow if I leave for 3 days it has a darker red. Does anyone have more information on this? I been trying to find info on this over the world wide web but is not easy, if anyone has a link to a post will be very useful. Thank you, much love!
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Mescaline extraction using 69ron TEK the longer salt with vinegar the more gets extracted?
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Mescaline is not red.
My theory would be, the more red the vinegar, the less pure the mescaline.
It should not take very long for mescaline to migrate from a non-polar solvent such as limonene into an aqueous acidic phase such as vinegar if the two are mixed adequately. All this talk of things taking days or even weeks is outdated and was most probably based on producing tinctures from plant material.
The aim of adding the vinegar to the limonene is to achieve a phase transfer by protonating the mescaline, which is dissolved in limonene as the freebase. Phase transfer time will be minimised (i.e. happens more quickly) by maximising contact between the two phases. This is achieved by thorough mixing.
Emulsions should not be too much of a problem with vinegar and limonene as long as you have taken care to ensure that the limonene is free from particulates such as lime particles or plant material.
If the limonene appears cloudy when drawn from the lime paste it can be filtered and/or left to settle for some time in a suitable container. It's generally easier to decant away from sediment if the container is relatively slender, although something like a boiling flask provides a shape that helps to trap sediment as well.
Once you have crystal-clear (albeit coloured) limonene you should be able to mix the vinegar through it quite vigorously and get the back-extraction done in minutes rather than days. Repeat the process with several small portions of vinegar. It does not matter if the vinegar is colourless - mescaline salts are colourless unless the anion itself is coloured.
My theory would be, the more red the vinegar, the less pure the mescaline.
It should not take very long for mescaline to migrate from a non-polar solvent such as limonene into an aqueous acidic phase such as vinegar if the two are mixed adequately. All this talk of things taking days or even weeks is outdated and was most probably based on producing tinctures from plant material.
The aim of adding the vinegar to the limonene is to achieve a phase transfer by protonating the mescaline, which is dissolved in limonene as the freebase. Phase transfer time will be minimised (i.e. happens more quickly) by maximising contact between the two phases. This is achieved by thorough mixing.
Emulsions should not be too much of a problem with vinegar and limonene as long as you have taken care to ensure that the limonene is free from particulates such as lime particles or plant material.
If the limonene appears cloudy when drawn from the lime paste it can be filtered and/or left to settle for some time in a suitable container. It's generally easier to decant away from sediment if the container is relatively slender, although something like a boiling flask provides a shape that helps to trap sediment as well.
Once you have crystal-clear (albeit coloured) limonene you should be able to mix the vinegar through it quite vigorously and get the back-extraction done in minutes rather than days. Repeat the process with several small portions of vinegar. It does not matter if the vinegar is colourless - mescaline salts are colourless unless the anion itself is coloured.
