Mescaline: Kash AB HCl and Cielo Extraction Attempts(update: Extractions Complete) +New extractions

[Madhattress]

Hi everyone,

So I want to attempt to do my first Mescaline extraction. I have ordered the chemical and equipment i need from a lab supply company. So lab grade chemicals CP.

I have been looking through a few extraction recipes but think I will attempt to do the following one i will reference and post below I found on Erowid.

Since it is my first time, i just want to ask the community of the safety of the end product crystals? Is there any chance of these chemicals to leave traces in the salts or is this not possible if the recipes are followed religiously?

I am very good at following instructions and will take the utmost care in the process where safety is concerned.

Any extra safety tips from you guys will be appreciated.

Here is the recipe i am thinking of following. Let me know what you think.

EDIT: I have decided to rather go with Kash's AB extraction Method-
Kash's A/B Mescaline Extraction - DMT-Nexus Wiki

EDIT: I decided to do the kash's AB extraction as well as the Cielo Tek extraction. Both with 105grams of dried cactus.

 

[Madhattress]

Another successful extraction complete this was a 100g from a mix of pachanoi and peruvian a good friend brought for me to extract.


I have another 150g cactus extraction going at the moment and should be ready in 2 days.


Love having a diary thread to post from my first extraction to now. Will have to write up a pdf soon about yields to post on the Endlessness yield thread

Wow, xtala look amazing. The data will be a great contribution . Hope you have some aging skews in there to further quantity that effect. Also anything we can learn about growing conditions, etc.

Thanks Loveall I will try my best at adding any information I have and hopefully some of it can be useful. It will take me a while to write up about all of these extractions but if it can be of help then I am happy to do it.

 

[Madhattress]

Super amped about my latest extraction!

I used a 150grams of cactus powder and it gave me 5.79g of mescaline citrate.

Great yield!


Some pics....

 

[Loveall]

Wow, 3.9% yield. Any more info on the cactus and /or grow/stress conditions? Congrats and love the updates.

 

[Madhattress]

Wow, 3.9% yield. Any more info on the cactus and /or grow/stress conditions? Congrats and love the updates.

Hi Loveall,

Here is a pic of the cuts I used, i kept their heads for replanting. They were from the same family/clone from mother.

These are more peruvian again. (I think they were the same family as that other peruvian that yielded so well last time)

They are quite a few years old. Not 100% sure the exact age, i would say 3-4 years or so. They were used right after cutting and had no dark rest period. They are very happy and healthy when they were cut.


They get approximately 8 months of summer and even in winter the sunshine isnt too bad in south africa. Definitely had no stress in its life. They get watered regularly(id say atleast once a week), except in winter because we have rainy winters so they get more rain in winter. I can imagine if it had dark rest and/or stress it would probably yield a lot more.

 

[Madhattress]

Wow, 3.9% yield. Any more info on the cactus and /or grow/stress conditions? Congrats and love the updates.

From what I am realising, is that I think here where i stay, the cacti generally have very good yields on average. Even cacti that friends bring me always yield well. I'm not even sure if we get PC here, I think that is probably more in the US.

We are very blessed here to have such good growing conditions for them as well, they grow so much each year. I still have barely made a dent in my collection that i have at home. Luckily i also have so many friends that are cacti enthusiasts, so I sometimes get cacti from them to do extractions as well. Which is great because it gives me the opportunity to do many extractions which I love doing no matter how many times i have done it, it doesn't get boring. :lol:

 

[Niccolai Pakalolo]

I just completed my first CIELO tek with 91g powder from ss02 and Lumberjack with a 4.76g yield. it just looks a bit suspect to me as it doesn't look like any other pics of finished product that I have seen. I crushed it and washed it in 300ml of fresh EA thinking there might still be CA in there, and there was very little change in how it looks. doesn't this look a bit too chunky?

 

[Loveall]

If you shake the jar during salting product can look wildly variable.

There is no CA in the product if you follow the TEK. You can dissolve 5 more grams of CA in the salted extract (if you still have it) to convince yourself.

That yield is possible.

 

[Niccolai Pakalolo]

I still have the salted extract and about 18 hours ago, I added about 1 g of citric acid monohydrate. It appears that none of it has dissolved, even with much agitation. about 12 hours ago, I powdered some of the citric acid, about 1 g, and added that to about 400ml of fresh EA in a separate jar. that also appears to be undissolved.. do I conclude at this point that there is something wrong with the CA and/or EA?

 

[Loveall]

I still have the salted extract and about 18 hours ago, I added about 1 g of citric acid monohydrate. It appears that none of it has dissolved, even with much agitation. about 12 hours ago, I powdered some of the citric acid, about 1 g, and added that to about 400ml of fresh EA in a separate jar. that also appears to be undissolved.. do I conclude at this point that there is something wrong with the CA and/or EA?

No, give it time. Is this fresh EA?

 

[Niccolai Pakalolo]

The 2nd jar with the powdered ca is in fresh ea .

 

[Madhattress]

Hey guys

Thought i would share how blessed i was today. My best friend who loves cactus as much as i do was gifted all this cactus by someone who didnt want it and is sharing it with me. We are both going to be doing many extractions in the next while. Feeling so blessed by the cacti gods.

I already did a test on some of this cactus and got 3.3g per 100g from what i extracted.

Just want to share because it was such a blessing.

Here are some pics.

 

[downwardsfromzero]

Hurdling Furdle! You lucky bunny! That's like a small forest there (and, steady as she goes...)

Hope you can get those roots planted soon. Looks like you have some awesome specimens for your collection.

 

[Madhattress]

Hurdling Furdle! You lucky bunny! That's like a small forest there (and, steady as she goes...)

Hope you can get those roots planted soon. Looks like you have some awesome specimens for your collection.

I know! So happy to add some of these beauties to my collection and then some for extracting. My collection will be thriving with the addition of some of these. Can't wait to plant them out!

It is winter season here now so as soon as winter is done I have a big collection of cool seed crosses i am starting in spring. So i am hoping in around 5 years time I should have around close to 500+ cacti:grin: :lol:

 

[Madhattress]

Hey guys just thoughts i would share this beautiful extraction. This is the xtal formation after 16hrs since salting with citric acid. This is a 2 liter container with 200g of Tricho peru.

 

[Madhattress]

Closeups

 

[Kash]

Closeups

Wow I have missed alot over the last year, love this thread and your latest extract looks beautiful! Read the whole thread and it was a great night lol.

I am truly envious of your rich cacti trove Madhat, if only I was in a more non-freezing climate like yours where it's possible to plant these sacred plants in the ground. We make our own paths in life though and I may need to make the move to truly allow my cacti collection to literally blossom like yours.

It was cool hearing your report about the 600mg citrate camping. How did you dose? My favorite means is usually taking a 150mg HCl cap at a time and allow yourself to acclimate until you get the right feeling. If you take all of them at once it can get overwhelming imho experience. After 3 things get pretty wild peaking into the alternate dimensions hah. Cacti is truly a benevolent and great teacher and so much less stressful than alternatives.

You have done alot of great looking work. Not sure how the rules are over there in Africa, I hope you are being safe and not attracting too much attention to yourself with the large garden and more contributions. Stay safe brother.

 

[shroombee]

How did you dose? My favorite means is usually taking a 150mg HCl cap at a time and allow yourself to acclimate until you get the right feeling. If you take all of them at once it can get overwhelming imho experience. After 3 things get pretty wild peaking into the alternate dimensions hah. Cacti is truly a benevolent and great teacher and so much less stressful than alternatives.

How much time do you wait in between taking caps?

 

[Madhattress]

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Wow I have missed alot over the last year, love this thread and your latest extract looks beautiful! Read the whole thread and it was a great night lol.

I am truly envious of your rich cacti trove Madhat, if only I was in a more non-freezing climate like yours where it's possible to plant these sacred plants in the ground. We make our own paths in life though and I may need to make the move to truly allow my cacti collection to literally blossom like yours.

It was cool hearing your report about the 600mg citrate camping. How did you dose? My favorite means is usually taking a 150mg HCl cap at a time and allow yourself to acclimate until you get the right feeling. If you take all of them at once it can get overwhelming imho experience. After 3 things get pretty wild peaking into the alternate dimensions hah. Cacti is truly a benevolent and great teacher and so much less stressful than alternatives.

You have done alot of great looking work. Not sure how the rules are over there in Africa, I hope you are being safe and not attracting too much attention to yourself with the large garden and more contributions. Stay safe brother.

Hey Kash, sorry for the late response, been quite busy the last two months! Glad you had a good read of the thread:lol:

Awww i must say i am soooo thankful as well that i live in as a climate that allows me to grow these beautiful specimens to their full potential They really do grow wild here if you allow them. I hope one day you get to live in an environment that allows you do to the same Im planning on starting many seedlings soon as we are in spring here at the moment. Planning for all my future endeavours:grin:

As for the 600mg dose when i went camping at the time, how i dosed was 600mg all at once. So the first day was 600mg and then the second day also 600mg.... but on the second day the mescaline hits sooooo much stronger than on the first day. It feels almost double as strong. I tested the theory again with the same friends again with another camping weekend and it was exactly the same on the second dose. So found that really interesting. I am actually going to be doing the same this weekend so will post another trip report on the 2 day mescaline adventure:grin:

Yes Cacti really have healed me so much mentally, especially in the last year as I have suffered from Anxiety for the last few years and since my extractions and being able to trip more often than drinking the tea, it really has helped tremendously in my mindset and i do not have anxiety as often as i had it before.

Thanks Kash, no i am completely safe this side I have a private, walled in garden(as most houses here are like that). Always being safe though regardless.

Anyways, I hope you keep well and stay safe as well

 

[kvltchvf]

If you are going to do this you should do more than 3 xylene pulls. I think 5 is minimum.

Also don't throw away the xylene like the process says, it can be reused.

If you salt with citric acid, you could remove excess citric in the final product (and maybe other impurities) with ethyl acetate. Citric acid dissolves slowly in dry ethyl acetate so give it time.

A better salting recommendation may be benzoic acid directly dissolved into xylene. Worth a test, if that makes sense to you.

What's the method you prefer, ive been looking at a few different options. Kash a/b or cielo or an alcohol one. Are there other options

 

[Transform]

What's the method you prefer, ive been looking at a few different options. Kash a/b or cielo or an alcohol one. Are there other options

Cielo extract from my san pedro

I have heavily researched all the methods this one seems to be the easiest and good yields. I enjoy a good trip but hear peyote and san pedro have a gross flavor. I like boomers but i dont want to drink nasty liquid. I do have a green thumb and like growing thinds. I want to do the process with...

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I'm pretty sure Loveall will prefer CIELO, but one also has to adjust ones extraction methods to the available materials.