MHRB extraction (#1)

[Electric Kool-Aid]

Ok I am doing a Nomans extraction with MHRB

50g Lye + 750ml water shook to clear
Added 50g MHRB prepowdered

I am looking at a soupy honey kinda thing.. it is near black.
Is this ok? or add more water + lye?

I thought I would try it out and see if it wasnt too thick. But I am thinking it is. So I will have to add more water and Lye.

Then add 50 - 75ml naptha and 1 hour rolling on the floor now and then. Then 1 hour just setting. Then pull.

Do I have to do 1 hour of rolling and let sit for 1 hour for each pull? (before puting pulls in the freezer for 12 hours)

 

[Istubar]

The way to transform bicarbonate to carbonate is in the wiki, I saw it before

I told you, I'm not able to post outside this forum!, I'm not a full user (or whatever it happens)

 

[Electric Kool-Aid]

The way to transform bicarbonate to carbonate is in the wiki, I saw it before

I told you, I'm not able to post outside this forum!, I'm not a full user (or whatever it happens)

:?
They have an extraction help in the section you are posting in right now. Go to the top right and click "new topic".
Ok? There are two extraction sections. The new members and full membership. Just post in the new member extraction help and you will get a response.

cheers!

 

[Electric Kool-Aid]

Did my 8th pull. I just left naphtha in the mix container from my first (and only) extraction for about 2 weeks. It was very brown looking in my precip tray. Then popped it in the freezer not expecting anything but fat to come out. Left in there for 12 hours and pured off naphtha and turned off freezer (its empty anyways). Came back after work and looked. To my suprise there was white flakes all over the place on the sides where the surface was. Scraped that and this was one of the largest pulls yet! Mind you, once I picked out the white stuff, there was a woodsy looking layer on the bottom which was left there while picking out the xtals. The brown solid layer was scraped up and smells of spice.

So my questions are: should I keep pulling??? if spice comes out, then keep going right? I was amazed to see like about 1 quarty coin size of white Xtals!
The other Q is: should I try saving this light brown crusty layer I scraped? I am sure it will get me high, but dont want to kill my lungs if there is bad stuff in there. Any idea how to tell? Clean it? It might have a lot of fat in it and it has dried. Not quite sure what to make of it. I know no gunk was pulled. Not one blob.

 

[Kash]

Wow 8th pull? Ya that definitly enough especially if you are getting some brown crud now. My mix is usually exhausted after 3 pull but I follow the Acid/Base procedure.

There are a number of ways to purify the brown gunk as there is probably a small amount of dmt in it. Up to you if you want to go through the effort. I wouldnt try smoking the brown crap though.

Basically im guesing you dont have many chemicals to work with. If you dont have muriatic acid(hcl) then hopefully atleast you have white vinegar(Acetic acid) as youll need a strong acid.
1)Dissolve brown gunk in naptha 50ml, seperate naptha from any insolubles
2)Make 50ml solution with 1 ml acid(hcl or acetic acid) and mix in with naptha, mix 10 mins and discard naptha
3)Add 50ml naptha and mix 10mins, seperate, discard naptha
4)Make a 50ml lye water soln
5)Mix two soln's together, should turn white if dmt is present and enough lye was used
6)Add 50ml naptha to this and mix for 10 mins, discard water layer save naptha
7)At this point you can optionally wash with a sodium bicarb soln, and dry with magnesium sulfate(epson salt), I havent noticed a huge difference in final product when this is done..
8)There probably isnt enough spice to do a freeze precip so set soln to evaporate and cross your fingers.

-An alternative more effective purification involves making its fumarate salt and converting back to freebase to remove impurities, but I doubt you have fumaric acid laying around. Get some online if you plan on making more spice in the future.

Hope this helps!

 

[Electric Kool-Aid]

Ok. So I can do a mini a/b on this gunk.
I might pass on that because there might not be much spice in the gunk.
I will put some more naphtha in the mix and try again until there is no spice.
If I get white chrystals, then that has to be spice right? Just won't smoke brown. I would have thrown the mix by now if there had not been spice!

Thanks for yor help!

 

[Electric Kool-Aid]

Extracted #9 pull and still more spice! #10 in the jar waiting for a few days and try to see if there is more.

 

[Kash]

Around 3g bleach white spice, 2 naptha pulls with A/B extraction. 3rd pull only gave trace amount of spice.

When you have to do 10 pulls something is wrong lol

 

[Istubar]

Hi dude!

Just a pair of question, How many ml of solvent have you used?

How many grams of DMT did you get from 50g of MHRB? I find very amazing that you have reached 9 pulls! :shock:

 

[Electric Kool-Aid]

I probably have 1.5 - 2 X what you have there in that bottle. Hard to tell though.
Not sure. This is my first extraction. I keep getting trace amounts too, but I will leave the solvent in for days to a week and it will somehow keep pulling more. Maybe I had better stop! lol

Nice pic of da zbice!

 

[alert]

I probably have 1.5 - 2 X what you have there in that bottle. Hard to tell though.
Not sure. This is my first extraction. I keep getting trace amounts too, but I will leave the solvent in for days to a week and it will somehow keep pulling more. Maybe I had better stop! lol

Nice pic of da zbice!

He had 3 grams in that bottle, I doubt you got 4.5-6g yield from 50g

 

[Electric Kool-Aid]

Nope! Didn't have that much! It's hard to tell from a pic. Plus mine is super fluffy. I am using my IPhone and that bottle looks small.

I donno what happened. Maybe me messing up the water ratio (because it's powdered), made it pull over multiple pulls. Not quite sure.
Once I get my scale then I will extract again.

Edit: I will do Heptane pulls next extract. Then try an a/b extrct. Or do you think I should do an a/b next?