More harmala or more DMT ?

[xa]

Hi,
What difference between a Changa mixture with more of Harmala than dmt and viceversa ?
And what difference between Harmala from Rue and from Caapi ?
Please only people that try both.

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[pantostao]

A changa mixture with more harmalas is "less extreme" than a mixture high in DMT. It's more grounding, less hyperspace blast from a cannon. High harmalas lead to something more similar to daydreaming than geometric abstract visions.

I haven't tried changa made with caapi only, I've always mixed the two, or used only rue. I cannot comment on that front. My last batch is high on caapi homemade extract, and it's "the daydreamiest of all". I don't think I can get to hyperspace with it even if I try. But at the same time, its amazing for a meditation session.

 

[xa]

A changa mixture with more harmalas is "less extreme" than a mixture high in DMT. It's more grounding, less hyperspace blast from a cannon. High harmalas lead to something more similar to daydreaming than geometric abstract visions.

I haven't tried changa made with caapi only, I've always mixed the two, or used only rue. I cannot comment on that front. My last batch is high on caapi homemade extract, and it's "the daydreamiest of all". I don't think I can get to hyperspace with it even if I try. But at the same time, its amazing for a meditation session.

How much Harmala did you have, what ratio, in the dreamiest one ?

 

[Voidmatrix]

I’ve found that having blends that are harmala heavy are more meditative and medicinal on a somatic level, while DMT heavy blends are more like… DMT and have the benefit of being more in line with a typical psychedelic experience, just lengthened and softened by the harmalas and a reset to the default mode network. Now, these observations are dependant on dose, of course.

Harmala heavy blends may cause more instances of purging, not unlike with Aya.

If I had to give a minimum amount of harmalas to suggest, I’d say no less than 200mg per gram of DMT.

Thread 'All Things CHANGA: An Essential Guide' All Things CHANGA: An Essential Guide

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[pantostao]

How much Harmala did you have, what ratio, in the dreamiest one ?

I'm sorry but I cannot remember exact ratios. I think it was somewhere around 1/3 harmala freebase to spice ratio. But I also added homemade caapi extract in an unknown proportion. It's definitely way more harmala heavy than my "standard" 1/3 mixture.

And I agree with Voidmatrix, go see that thread. That's where I got most of the info I know now.