My Changa Experiments

[TransistorBass]

I fugure I'll do this again, even though I have a fervent dislike of the taste of smoke, and log them in this thread.

7th June 2026

Changa Experiment

Guessing about an 11.30-11.45 start
Bit cold in here, will address that later, heart rate high and the usual apprehension kicking in.

My Fist Changa Mix:
500mg NN DMT FB (Plus a little I'd recovered from my Freeze precip dishes so guessing 5-10mg extra)
400mg Harmalas
580mg Mullein
580mg Blue Lotus

First bowl, first carefully heat before a full on burn, I’m mostly doing mouth to lung as I would with a joint or weed pipe apart from the initial heat doing as much straight to lung as possible.

Changa, What a weird thing!

Tastes ****ing horrible.

Trying to give it time for effects, Waves of totally normal coupled with waves of colourful. Shakes happening. I'm colder than I should be.

I turned the heater on and now I'm trying to distract myself from shakes though the effects in waves are interesting.

Interesting means of administration, colourful waves at random, same baseline waves of default state too.
12.10 Weirdly not got that trippy feeling yet. I’m trying to give it time so I can understand the duration before filling another bowl.
Quite a long come-up too.
12.20 comfort break.
12.30 next bowl
Feels very globular, as in, for a moment's glance away is full reality.
I’m literally sat here analysing it.
Very peculiar, my assumption is that the Harmalas will slowly build up the more tokes and then the DMT is the cherry on top.
12.45 I should note that I’m getting a bit of the old melted lips thing going on. It feels like I’m sitting here as the observer as I pick apart the effects.
Do Harmalas persist longer than DMT when smoked as Changa???
You do have to fully create ash for the full experience.
Definite soporific quality.
Very very slowly starting to feel some of the body load of oral Harmalas and vaped DMT
If it wasn’t for the smoke taste and newly revived numb lips sensation it’s an interesting experience.
12.55 first spotted emotion rising / being more available.
I’m almost always at a coherent level though you may be able to pick this up from my use of language during this journal.
There are moments of very beautiful vibrant OEV coupled with flashes of baseline reality.
I have a very quizzical face about all this so far.
Btw it’s 13.10 now.
Heart rate chilled as anything now, this has to be the most science experiment of all my DMT sessions. Interesting that it’s plumbed me straight into mental coherence.

*Post sesh thoughts*
An interesting enough experience to do it again, if the cat gets off my comfy chair I may go back in to try my second Changa Mix which is more Harmalas-heavy.

 

[Voidmatrix]

Shakes happening.

Your body is likely trying to also process. Like I've told many others, let the shaking happen, let it get big, and see what happens and how it feels. It may seem weird, and my virtue of that, also feel uncomfortable, but it really is a good thing when you allow your body to do it and get used to it.

You do have to fully create ash for the full experience.

A stronger blend will change that

One love

 

[TransistorBass]

Your body is likely trying to also process. Like I've told many others, let the shaking happen, let it get big, and see what happens and how it feels. It may seem weird, and my virtue of that, also feel uncomfortable, but it really is a good thing when you allow your body to do it and get used to it.


A stronger blend will change that

One love

I'm leaning, I was just a bit overly cold to start with in this case and this was all low dose stuff.

 

[TransistorBass]

Here's the completely different second mix!!

Second Changa Mix


300mg DMT
900mg Harmalas
250mg Mullein
500mg Chamomile
500mg Blue Lotus

16.40 start

Dentist / anaesthetic gas taste.
Way more woozy and effects take longer to come on.
Shaky hands
Very much sits you on your arse from the Harmalas.
Much easier to smoke.
Yawning a lot.
17.20 I’m finding it hard to finish the bowl, I’ll have to blend this batch into future Changa mixes. It’s too sedating for me at the moment, though a reasonable exploration of what higher dose Harmalas brings.
Almost the exact opposite of the fist mix.
17.30 the most tiny hit of Mix Number 1, immediate increase in Harmala feels but thankfully a little more trippyness.
I think this second mix is making me need a pee!
Overall too sedating
18.05 and still got a slight hint of Harmalas going on, going to call it done though.

 

[Voidmatrix]

That's pretty steep on the harmalas, I am not surprised it's putting you on your ass a bit.

I rarely finish a bowl in one sitting. Just come back to it later and finish it off and be ready to reload the pipe as you come down if need be. I sometimes pack a small amount more on top of what was just finished if I want to bounce back in after cashing a bowl.

One love

 

[DetritusTheEgo]

Thanks for the changa log. Looking at your blends it'll be interesting to compare subjective effects of mine versus yours based with the varying rates of MAOI. I did DMT 1g: Leaf 1g: Harmalas .3g.

Is there much understanding of what causes shaking with changa? Based on Voidmatrix reply it seems a commonality. I've never encountered shakes while consuming only DMT so I'm guessing the MAOI is a factor but likely not the only culprit. Thinking MAOI, preflight anxiety, and heightened temperature sensitivity likely contributors.

How are people dosing changa? Seems more of a load and go with it. I'm used to weigh it, smoke it just right, and try to get as much into me as short of an interval. I had calculated weights to consume that translate to straight DMT. Like for me 30mg of DMT would be 69mg of the changa but wasn't sure if the DMT mg to shoot for was same with the MAOI in the mix.

 

[Voidmatrix]

Is there much understanding of what causes shaking with changa?

I would say that it is associated with certain types of states, and changa is one thing that can induce these states.

As I understand it, on a neurological level, it's the autonomic nervous system discharging and balancing itself. It can be brought about through meditation, mindful or targeted psychedlic work, and other altered states. There are actually a variety of practices that induce a state that lead to shaking of some kind. In general, it is used to restore well-being, lower cortisol, and manage anxiety.

In my own experience, it happens a lot, but was first initiated by psychedelic states. Sometimes I will smoalk with the intention to shake. It's automatic and can be shut off, but it's good to allow it to happen. Interestingly, I can induce it sooner when practicing glossolalia.

How are people dosing changa? Seems more of a load and go with it. I'm used to weigh it, smoke it just right, and try to get as much into me as short of an interval. I had calculated weights to consume that translate to straight DMT. Like for me 30mg of DMT would be 69mg of the changa but wasn't sure if the DMT mg to shoot for was same with the MAOI in the mix.

Changa is the only thing I don't weigh. I just load and go. It's really because of how changa is. You can keep taking hits, stepping in until you're where you want to be. Or, you can just rip it and see what happens, and do it again if needed.

I NEVER vape it.

One love

 

[TransistorBass]

Thanks for the changa log. Looking at your blends it'll be interesting to compare subjective effects of mine versus yours based with the varying rates of MAOI. I did DMT 1g: Leaf 1g: Harmalas .3g.

Is there much understanding of what causes shaking with changa? Based on Voidmatrix reply it seems a commonality. I've never encountered shakes while consuming only DMT so I'm guessing the MAOI is a factor but likely not the only culprit. Thinking MAOI, preflight anxiety, and heightened temperature sensitivity likely contributors.

How are people dosing changa? Seems more of a load and go with it. I'm used to weigh it, smoke it just right, and try to get as much into me as short of an interval. I had calculated weights to consume that translate to straight DMT. Like for me 30mg of DMT would be 69mg of the changa but wasn't sure if the DMT mg to shoot for was same with the MAOI in the mix.

As Void says, ist good to lean into the shakes, let it happen if you feel it, rather like when emotions rise up, if you feel like crying just go for it.... I've had beaufiful bursts of colourfull visuals at the point of emotional release and realisation which makes it feel like a little reward system in your brain going "here, have a lollipop, you earned it"