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My first dmt trip: i went to hell

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Yeah I see what you mean.
What is bizarre about dmt, or at least in my experience of it, is this unshakable sense of infinity. I could have a feeling of no progression but still not feel that it's eternal, see. But with this experience there was this sense of infinity. And I wonder how that could be explained. What does dmt do to the brain, that its sense of finitude is blocked? or to put it differently, that the notion of death as being some sort of finality ceases to exist for the mind ?
Does this give us some deeper insight, when we experience this? Or is it rather the case that, our brain is at that moment incapable of accepting the idea of finality?
 
dvc777 said:
Yeah I see what you mean.
What is bizarre about dmt, or at least in my experience of it, is this unshakable sense of infinity. I could have a feeling of no progression but still not feel that it's eternal, see. But with this experience there was this sense of infinity. And I wonder how that could be explained. What does dmt do to the brain, that its sense of finitude is blocked? or to put it differently, that the notion of death as being some sort of finality ceases to exist for the mind ?
Does this give us some deeper insight, when we experience this? Or is it rather the case that, our brain is at that moment incapable of accepting the idea of finality?
This exactly was the common theme for my dmt trips, the sense that it's all infinite and eternal, and that is terrifying. To feel that there is no liberation, not even in death. Or at least there is no easy way for liberation and the only way is through. Even rationally no one can prove that things will end at death and i think it's not wise to assume so and live based on that.
I think the rational brain is what imposes the sense of finitude to protect itself, simply because infinity is incomprehensible, even in the most rigorous mathematical terms. With dmt that sense is lifted.
 
Or perhaps, we "unlearn" the idea of death in the dmt experience , which is, after all, an idea we have acquired through learning* and which is not given to us from the beginning.

*(or rather we learn to assimilate the idea of death to our experience of going to sleep - of losing consciousness)
 
So, our idea of what death is like is false to begin with. It's based just on a comparison. On psychedelics, our "learning" in terms of metaphors and images becomes shaken, jumbled. I had mushroom trips during which images from my life would begin to appear as completely alien things (for example the image of a childhood friend came to my mind, but it felt like a bizarre alien thing that had nothing to do with me). I would recognize them as parts of my life, but i would feel completely dissociated from them, as if they didn't belong to me. Likewise, the lazy association of death with sleep/end of consciousness is something inaccessible to us during the psychedelic experience (familiar associations are dissolved... this is obviously one of the effects of the hallucinogen on the mind).
The psychedelic experience totally dissociates memories and acquired concepts from our familiar way of organizing them (this organisation is fundamentally fictitious but it is convenient), liberating them again, as it were (liberation not being a relief per se : madness is "liberation" as well). And then you can play with these things in a new way.
There was a Dutch writer, Rudy Kousbroek, who once wrote about lsd trip as a regression to preverbal reality. I always thought that an interesting thought.
 
Greetings!
I am a man of 40 years old. I live in Belgium. A big reader. Not married but in a relationship. Librarian by profession. My background is that of a cultural catholic (so not truly a believer, but I grew up in the milieu nevertheless, even though my parents were not believers the culture is still there in a vestigial way, qua general attitude). I guess I am mildly neurotic, I have been on antidepressants for over a decade (this started with tinnitus). I have always led a "normal" life, being able to work.

I have recently succeeded in having somewhat of a trip on dmt, after two previous fruitless attempts. I had been long interested in the substance, through watching youtube video’s (Terence McKenna), reading Strassman’s book, which I had found by chance in a secondhand bookshop.

As I am ever intrigued by “profound stuff”, for example I read a lot of philosophy, I was just very eager to try DMT. Having previously taken moderate doses of mushrooms, lsd, as well as less moderate doses of cannabis. I am also familiar with more recreative drugs like speed, coke and xtc, mdma.

Testimonies which I’d heard of DMT were always reporting a sort of life changing, perspective changing experience, far reaching hallucinations which to the one experiencing them feel very “real”. I had heard from several reports that it changes the way you think about dying.

Having had my mother pass away two years ago, I was also very interested in what DMT could teach me about death. Was it true that death was not to be feared? That there is an afterlife?

A good friend was able to obtain it, and I went to his house as soon as possible to try it.

I had done my research, knowing how to prepare it, how to prepare the setting.

It was when evening fell, in a spacious greenhouse, decorated with lots of soft lights, we had some Indian chanting music on. My friend sat next to me to take the pipe from me.

My friend had been able to obtain a gram of the substance, and we took roughly 1/20th of the gram and put in the pipe. I vaped it up in one go.

Immediately I was sucked into what seemed like another dimension. My friend told me afterwards that my eyes were still opened, which surprised me.

What I experienced is hard to describe. I didn’t get a lot of visuals. I had the sense that I was in hell.

Everything was dark, as if I was in space, in general. I had the feeling that I had entered hell and that I would be there forever. I felt like crying (outwardly I showed no expression, except a brief look of astonishment in my eyes). I felt like this was the truth about the universe. I had screwed up and I had found the portal to hell. And now, for my curiosity and general badness, I was being punished.

Forever I was to exist in this “true” dimension, suffering for eternity. (another depressing thought i had was that this was the true destiny for the whole of the universe)

But then I started hearing the music again (Indian chanting on spotify) and this brought me back a little. I managed to glance beside me and slowly my friend reappeared.

He looked very concerned and sympathetic, as if he knew I had gone through something bad.

The first thing I said to him was “Don’t do this”. He looked “enhanced”, had a bit of an elfish vibe to him.

I told him I was very glad to be back and that I felt as I had been to hell.

I also said I’m glad you’re here to witness this, you have to remind me of what I’m telling you.
“Are you still “on” it?”

“Yes, I still feel it. But I’m ok now. I’ve been to hell, but I’m glad I witnessed it. I have the feeling that I have to change my life. ”

“But you’re a good person. How should you change your life?”

“I don’t know yet. This I’ll have to find out. I felt at one with the cosmos, but in a bad way. I felt the whole universe is evil. I have to start to investigate how I myself can be less evil, if that is possible at all. Because I don’t want to go to hell. But I am thankful for this revelation”.

Apparently, so my friend told me, throughout I had kept my eyes open, and the period when I had “tripped” had only taken about two minutes. At my feet were, dark wood chips. This can explain the sense of darkness.

I think this was not quite a "breakthrough" breakthrough. I didn’t enter any dome, didn’t see any colorful things, no entities, no shape shifting. It was very abstract and insular. A sense of horror and eternity. A sense of the true hidden reality, rather than the world of “representation” with which we are occupied usually.

I didn’t know whether this “hell” was the true reality, or if it appeared to me as such due to my own status of being a sinner. I don’t know if this line of thinking makes sense to any of you (I would love to hear your response, especially from those who have tripped many times on dmt. Is this usual? Is this some kind of “portal” before the actual breakthrough?)

I am now impressed with the idea that I was shown the existence of “hell”. I have to investigate whether I can be “saved”. But I also really want to do it again, to see if next time, I have revelations of a different nature (I would love to explore more, and find out about “helping spirits” of any kind)

As I said I am on antidepressants (SSRI). I had a slight hangover from the previous day (I had also been a bit irritable this day). And right before the trip I had drank about three beers and had a meal. so perhaps, my "set" was unfavorable?

I would love to hear any remark/feedback on this cursory report of my first dmt trip. Feel free to ask me any questions. Thanks for reading!
Hi, my name is Mike. I have been regularly using DMT through the use of vaporizer pans for quite a while. I recently obtained a crystallized form of the substance and I had, you know, never done it in this kind of way so I went and got what people smoke meth out of a glass pipe with a bubble at the end and I put in about I would say a third of the gram you know planning on hitting it several times like I do the vaporizer pan. Well, I took a gigantic, just a huge hit and immediately my head went back and everything turned like a fluorescent green like I was inside of a bubble that was just outside of my body. The bubble started spinning backwards, and I had complete loss of control of my body, and I was spinning in a circle in a circle when I was, I was grunting then I started to feel like I was throwing up and the throw up was passing for my stomach out of my mouth and back through my ass in a vicious circle, and it gets stronger and stronger and stronger. It got so strong that I could literally feel myself dying. I was immediately pulled down through a tunnel in where I arrived into a intake area in another realm where I was informed that I had just died and that it was over. the person talking I didn't see them, but I could hear their voice and they told me that my mother that I had let my mother down who was a Christian woman and that has passed away 4 years ago and that I had also let God down then a toilet appeared in front of me and they pulled my soul out of my body and threw it into the toilet and it splattered like shit, and I was told that I was filth and that I was going to spend the rest of my life in hell and eternity I started to see every bad thing or thought that I had ever done was flashing before me is clear as crystal. This wasn't just a haze of a trip. This was brutal and very real. All I can do is curl up on on a ball on the floor. I started to cry and wish I were dead and the voice told me, but you're already dead. This is for eternity. I was sitting in my truck. I wasn't very prepared for this trip. I was sitting in front of a sporting goods store with the air conditioner blowing not expecting this at all when I came to I had driven out to the middle of the street and stopped traffic. Not a very smart place or time to do this knowing full well had to prepare for a DMT trip luckily I was able to get the vehicle reverse and back it back into the parking lot. This is something that I've never experienced before and I know some people call it an ego, death or something like that I don't know. I felt like a huge sense of shame and guilt and like that I got this overwhelming feeling that God had given me another chance of life. You know that I wasn't dead and I was back and I can just say that this was very scary. It wasn't like any of the other DMT experiences I've ever had before and I don't know if there's anyone out there that has ever actually died and then gone to hell like this, but that's exactly what happened to me. I'm very scared to try a dosage this large again like I feel like maybe I'll just stick to the vapor pens because those are usually metered and you know not too heavy but I wanted to go there and I wanted to take it. You know as you know, I wanted to breakthrough as they say and I broke through right it just wasn't a pleasant experience like I really felt my body die and I just can't explain how clear it was when I got down to that place. I was just amaze me and I'm still stuck. I've been researching online all day for other people that had similar experiences and that's why I'm on here. Hopefully someone can read this and maybe have had a similar experience and can get back to me on it.
 
For some people, hell is a wall of text without paragraph breaks ;)

Welcome to the Nexus, glad to see you found the search function. Please ensure you measure your doses in future, and consume them away from heavy machinery and motor vehicles.

You may find it helpful to consider some of your actions in light of what are essentially our ground rules:
not to mention common sense.

Sounds like you had a huge overdose - psychologically terrifying, but not directly physically harmful. Do you think there may have been a part of you which had some inkling that what you were doing had the potential to harm and endanger other people? What were the circumstances that led you to choose to use such a powerful substance in such an unsuitable situation?

If you were capable of feeling shame and guilt, that bit likely wasn't ego death, but the light of self-awareness can be harsh if there have been things which one has been pushing into the shadows.

Take care, see you around.
 
Hi, my name is Mike. I have been regularly using DMT through the use of vaporizer pans for quite a while. I recently obtained a crystallized form of the substance and I had, you know, never done it in this kind of way so I went and got what people smoke meth out of a glass pipe with a bubble at the end and I put in about I would say a third of the gram you know planning on hitting it several times like I do the vaporizer pan. Well, I took a gigantic, just a huge hit and immediately my head went back and everything turned like a fluorescent green like I was inside of a bubble that was just outside of my body. The bubble started spinning backwards, and I had complete loss of control of my body, and I was spinning in a circle in a circle when I was, I was grunting then I started to feel like I was throwing up and the throw up was passing for my stomach out of my mouth and back through my ass in a vicious circle, and it gets stronger and stronger and stronger. It got so strong that I could literally feel myself dying. I was immediately pulled down through a tunnel in where I arrived into a intake area in another realm where I was informed that I had just died and that it was over. the person talking I didn't see them, but I could hear their voice and they told me that my mother that I had let my mother down who was a Christian woman and that has passed away 4 years ago and that I had also let God down then a toilet appeared in front of me and they pulled my soul out of my body and threw it into the toilet and it splattered like shit, and I was told that I was filth and that I was going to spend the rest of my life in hell and eternity I started to see every bad thing or thought that I had ever done was flashing before me is clear as crystal. This wasn't just a haze of a trip. This was brutal and very real. All I can do is curl up on on a ball on the floor. I started to cry and wish I were dead and the voice told me, but you're already dead. This is for eternity. I was sitting in my truck. I wasn't very prepared for this trip. I was sitting in front of a sporting goods store with the air conditioner blowing not expecting this at all when I came to I had driven out to the middle of the street and stopped traffic. Not a very smart place or time to do this knowing full well had to prepare for a DMT trip luckily I was able to get the vehicle reverse and back it back into the parking lot. This is something that I've never experienced before and I know some people call it an ego, death or something like that I don't know. I felt like a huge sense of shame and guilt and like that I got this overwhelming feeling that God had given me another chance of life. You know that I wasn't dead and I was back and I can just say that this was very scary. It wasn't like any of the other DMT experiences I've ever had before and I don't know if there's anyone out there that has ever actually died and then gone to hell like this, but that's exactly what happened to me. I'm very scared to try a dosage this large again like I feel like maybe I'll just stick to the vapor pens because those are usually metered and you know not too heavy but I wanted to go there and I wanted to take it. You know as you know, I wanted to breakthrough as they say and I broke through right it just wasn't a pleasant experience like I really felt my body die and I just can't explain how clear it was when I got down to that place. I was just amaze me and I'm still stuck. I've been researching online all day for other people that had similar experiences and that's why I'm on here. Hopefully someone can read this and maybe have had a similar experience and can get back to me on it.
I surprised you were connected to your body enough to feel sensations like needing to throw up. I'm also surprised you remember it.

Now, what did we learn? Weigh your doses.

One love
 
Now, what did we learn? Weigh your doses
To that I'd like to add, don't do DMT while sat behind the wheel of a vehicle in a public car park with the engine running.

@Mikesaltwater - have you read any works of psychedelic literature (there are many), like, real books?
This could be considered an essential step of preparation.

Would you put a toddler into the driver's seat of an interstellar rocket ship?
 
Mike I really appreciate you taking the time to explain yourself in such an honest an inquisitive way.

Would be more than happy to chat over message about the themes and confronting nature of your experience if that is something you feel might help.

Also I want to say thank you for bumping this thread, I’ve reached out to OP who posted in 2021 to see if they are still active and how they might be going this many years on.

Very interesting, and concerning.
 
Very interesting, and concerning
We've known for literally decades that DMT can be unbelievably weird, scary - and make you think that you've died. If people bothered to do the least bit of background reading in preparation for the experience - well, they'd arguably be doing themselves a favour at the very least.

I'm on the cusp of republishing an improved rendering of Gracie and Zarkov's "Notes from Underground, vol. II", from 1985, where you'll see the weirdness and death-like experiences are outlined quite clearly, along with the caution against using psychedelics in public and/or in combination with motor vehicles. So, yes, ignorance is, unfortunately, concerning.

My view is that DMT, among other actions, exposes aspects of the foundational programming of one's mind. This can, at times, be ugly to say the least.

In that respect, you might want to (re-)examine your own assumptions before proceeding any further on this path.
 
We've known for literally decades that DMT can be unbelievably weird, scary - and make you think that you've died. If people bothered to do the least bit of background reading in preparation for the experience - well, they'd arguably be doing themselves a favour at the very least.

I'm on the cusp of republishing an improved rendering of Gracie and Zarkov's "Notes from Underground, vol. II", from 1985, where you'll see the weirdness and death-like experiences are outlined quite clearly, along with the caution against using psychdelics in public and/or in combination with motor vehicles. So, yes, ignorance is, unfortunately, concerning.

My view is that DMT, among other actions, exposes aspects of the foundational programming of one's mind. This can, at times, be ugly to say the least.

In that respect, you might want to (re-)examine your own assumptions before proceeding any further on this path.
Thank you so much for your insights Transform, it is much appreciated and I really wish I had people like you around when I first broke through.

It’s without question that yourself and many others are rather experienced and I personally have always found it baffling yet admirable that someone can just explain away the experience like that.

All I’m trying to do is reach someone where they are, in a language they understand, because God knows I would have really appreciated that.

The word concerning was more so directed at the lack of empathy in the replies but my efforts in subtlety have been unsuccessful sorry, sometimes I just think people will know what I mean.
 
Thank you so much for your insights Transform, it is much appreciated and I really wish I had people like you around when I first broke through.

It’s without question that yourself and many others are rather experienced and I personally have always found it baffling yet admirable that someone can just explain away the experience like that.

All I’m trying to do is reach someone where they are, in a language they understand, because God knows I would have really appreciated that.

The word concerning was more so directed at the lack of empathy in the replies but my efforts in subtlety have been unsuccessful sorry, sometimes I just think people will know what I mean.
Yes, perhaps we could have been more welcoming; however, a certain level of outrage is inevitable among rational people when irresponsible use has risked harming or even killing other people. We can't sugar coat that. It's a bit like having sympathy because he failed to win a Darwin Award.

Let's be clear, we're talking about a (nominal) adult who made a series of questionable decisions to get into that particular situation, not some child who, say, stumbled across a landmine or something. Still, I wish him all the best and trust that he learned something. The integration process is his own, yet we're always here if he still wants to discuss it some more.

@Mikesaltwater - how's it going with you? Are there any particular insights that have come to the fore these past days? Your report sounded like there must be areas of your life where change would be desirable - but how much of the experience might have been coloured by taboos regarding "(ab)use of illegal drugs)"?
 
The word concerning was more so directed at the lack of empathy in the replies but my efforts in subtlety have been unsuccessful sorry, sometimes I just think people will know what I mean.
Yeah, subtlety still needs a thread to lead people where you would like their understanding to go.

On another note, it seems you're referring to me with your comments on lack of empathy. Aside from what @Transform shared, I'm not sure where I was mean, I made an observation, then I made a slight joke about something serious, as highlighted by @Transform, but if you want to interpret that as "lack of empathty," then welcome to the Nexus.

One love
 
Not trying to step on anyone’s toes here and I’m certainly not trying to kick any hornets nests.

I just know what’s it’s like to have a traumatic experience as your first only to have the people you seek guidance from berate you for your behaviour and belittle you for your lack of knowledge and experience.

Although a positive outcome was that it made it easier to cling to the dmt beings now that I had a reference for comparison for compassion.

I’ve heard of beautiful experiences from terrible people and terrible experiences from beautiful people, I’m in no way condoning reckless behaviour but you catch more bees with honey, or as I like to call it, full spectrum sugar.

My aim was not at any person,
nor is this reply,
so while I talk to space between you,
Does it catch your eye.

If you feel like this was meant for you then that’s your stuff to work through, else, it should have just beaded off, like water off a ducks back, who am I to tell you who you are?

The key word here would be ‘nominal’ and it’s careful placement, please let’s all remember this when we see aged humans behave in such a manor.

From my experience, the first breakthrough did feel like I was a child wondering through a beautiful field of roses and accidentally stepped on a land mine, that’s really what we are until that happens, some of us are introduced in different ways, I’m not sure how it works but I have heard that some people get a beautiful magic carpet ride.

All I can say is thank God for the dmt beings, they held me close and kept me safe and continue to do so on my journey through this existence.

That land mine scared the life out of me and I’ll never ever forget it, every day of my life since has been carefully lived as a result of that moment that lasted many lifetimes.
 
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Not trying to step on anyone’s toes here and I’m certainly not trying to kick any hornets nests.
You're not "kicking a hornets nest." However, if you say something, you've opened the door to someone responding to what was said. You had criticisms about the responses to "Mike." There were only two response, mine and @Transform .

So while
My aim was not at any person,
nor is this reply,
so while I talk to space between you,
Does it catch your eye.
you say this, it's still about us.

So again, you had a criticism, I responded to it. If you didn't want a response, then you ought to have kept it to yourself.

I just know what’s it’s like to have a traumatic experience as your first only to have the people you seek guidance from berate you for your behaviour and belittle you for your lack of knowledge and experience.
Then there seems to be some misunderstanding on your end. This person stated that had been regularly parttaking in a vape pen and that this was their first time with crystal specifically, so it's not their first experience with DMT.

I have been regularly using DMT through the use of vaporizer pans for quite a while.

Hence my response, which related to him and then got to the meat of the situation: weigh your doses. That information, and my choice to share it is compassion. Didn't berate and didn't belittle.

At the same time,
I just know what’s it’s like to have a traumatic experience
Seems like your overall response is more of a personal one and not on behalf of Mike.

If you feel like this was meant for you then that’s your stuff to work through, else, it should have just beaded off, like water off a ducks back, who am I to tell you who you are?
Cute, you can apply the same to yourself. What caused you to levy a criticism could also have been like water off of a duck's back.

So, all this being said, I'm more curious about your personal experiences and how they relate to this thread. You've given us some kernels, but would you be willing to share more?

One love
 
Well it looks like I’ve finally found some people I can have a real conversation with despite the fact that I wasn’t really speaking to either of you in the first place and you chose to engage with me, and yes I chose to cryptically criticise and hoped someone would ask and now I feel like I have some new friends :)

The only reason I doubled down instead of just letting it go was to make it clear that the dmt experience was not my concern and to not let people think this, I’d rather get into it with you both than let people think the dmt experience is a concern.

Honestly I’d be holding the people putting dmt in vape carts and handing them out accountable for this little debarcle more so than the person who managed to get so far without being taken to town.

I’ve clearly projected into this scenario and turned it around to be more about myself than Mike which just goes to show how much I need to grow.

Hopefully Mike got something out of this cause whilst a part of me was concerned for Mike, I think a bigger part of me just wanted engagement.

For me to speak of my experiences off the back of this interaction would be selfish of me but I’m sure we’ll all see eachother around.
 
Honestly I’d be holding the people putting dmt in vape carts and handing them out accountable for this little debarcle more so than the person who managed to get so far without being taken to town.
I think you're missing the point, even if the Nexus is clearly and explicitly opposed to commercial sales of DMT products.

How much of the entirety of this thread have you actually read?
How about engaging with one of the points like, for example:
This exactly was the common theme for my dmt trips, the sense that it's all infinite and eternal, and that is terrifying. To feel that there is no liberation, not even in death. Or at least there is no easy way for liberation and the only way is through. Even rationally no one can prove that things will end at death and i think it's not wise to assume so and live based on that.
I think the rational brain is what imposes the sense of finitude to protect itself, simply because infinity is incomprehensible, even in the most rigorous mathematical terms. With dmt that sense is lifted.
This one reminds me of the "Total Perspective Vortex" from Douglas Adams' (and John Lloyd's, if we look back to the 1977 radio series) The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Are you familiar with this… work of genius at all?

Feel free to share your experiences either in this thread (which wasn't Mike Saltwater's anyhow), your own or any other appropriate thread, by the way. We'd be most intrigued to hear both what happened and how it's played out for you since.
 
Jesus Christ, talk about 2 on 1, feel free to jump in at any time Mike 😂

I’ve read the whole thing and I do appreciate the way you like to communicate but I like to leave things open to interpretation and I love to speak in riddles and parables, if we got to the bottom of this quickly and concisely, then what more would there be to do other than judge those not yet as far down the path.

It would have been a very sad day if Robert Hunter told us what all those lyrics really meant.

To be honest, English, or any other human language is an infrastructure nowhere near complex or versatile enough to convey or withstand this type of conversation or experience without misunderstandings taking place, as we have already witnessed.

I’ll try get to the point without the life story, although the life story really is the point, but I’ll try be brief.

For context, we are Australiens, we work mostly with Acacia.

Had been playing with dimmies for at least a couple weeks at this point, small amounts sandwiched in cones (weed+tobacco, remember we’re Aussie) no we were not weighing it, and compared to some of the really strong acid trips I’ve had, I honestly thought I had already “broken through” or seen everything dmt or psychedelics had to offer, I didn’t possibly think there was more than what I was already experiencing in life.

Was beginning to wonder what all the fuss was about and started to test things like, what happens when you smoke small amounts consistently, and was honestly just living the dream, didn’t really have to work, was cashed up, living free in arguably one of the best suburbs in the world, mates that produced the goods, I had made it.

Then one night, I clearly had 1 too many in short succession, Everything just went, I was no longer in my room with my mates, I was in this vast expanse of empty darkness and I knew I had died and that it was for eternity, now remember I had not ever heard about actually breaking through, there was tripping and tripping hard, but not simulated death and rebirth, it’s a lot for a person who doesn’t know much about it, we had only heard that Joe Rogan radio snippet at this time.

In this space, these beings, one on each side of me, aliken to rockem sockem robots, held me in there embrace, for what felt like thousands of years, multiple lives, they knew I was scared, I pleaded with them, I begged, please let me go back, please let me go back, they would ‘communicate’ that you don’t usually get to go back from where I was but after lifetimes of pleading, they let me come back, not before communicating that if I ever returned, they won’t let me come back to reality and my loved ones.

Have since dipped my toes in and been privileged enough to try some of the best(subjective term) acacia around!!! I continue to promote the dmt experience in a positive light, but in all honestly, that was enough for me to know they are there, on the other side, just right there, always, watching, listening, it was enough for me to not really need to break through again, the fear and realisation from that one experience was enough to set me straight.

It completely shaped who I am today and set me on the path that I am still on, I don’t need to break through to calibrate my compass, the first one hit me that hard it’s stuck at true north.

It’s similar to the way Rick Strassman talks about his breakthrough, I mean where do you go from there? And does anyone really need a reminder of that? It’s also very lonely at the top and this reality is the only reality we have free will to the point we can make positive change.

The only thing I’ve ever wanted was to be welcomed back into that space in a constructive and beautiful way, I hear so many cool and beautiful stories then think about my failure to launch and it really cuts me deep.

I’ve spent more than 15 years of my life since then becoming a better person and shaping my life in the way my experience has taught me.

Although all the while still using LSD, nitrous and weed quite excessively, then not too long ago I found this synthetic dimmies, got a lifetimes supply, couple o’s.

Started smoking it out of a crack pipe, was also doing a lot of LSD, nitrous, and amyl around the same time period but not cocktail style, just trying to illustrate how slippery my reality already was, I’m the kinda person that likes to live somewhere as appose to just visit.

Met a girl who already had kids, tried to save her from a dmt seeking abusive meth addict boyfriend, that’s how she found me he was looking for dimmies, we got close and toxic, my ex then popped back up, then all of a sudden I’m juggling reality itself and two women and children pulling me east and west, meanwhile I’m locked in north. Torn to shreds, broken open, irreparable damage to everyone involved.

Then I went sober for a few months, I had no choice, there was no comfort in that space any more, it was the first and longest time being sober since I was a child, it was a living nightmare, I knew if I killed my self I had that dark empty to look forward to so I just sat in hell and endured it, sober as a judge.

In this period of sobriety I had some of the most psychedelic and synchronistic experiences that rival some of the strongest LSD and dmt experiences I’ve had or read about.

Jesus introduced himself to me and it all just sorta fell into place, it’s hard to explain without sounding like ‘that guy’, like I’m not anti drug or pro Christian, but he revealed himself to me, and just like how I met the rockem sockem robots and know they are real, I now know Jesus is real but it happened when I was the most sober I’ve been in more than half my life.
 
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