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Mystery plant. Beggar Lice? Potent dmt source?

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prottel

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Anyone that could make something out of this thread:
American Chacruna - Begger Lice! (Desmodium gangeticum)

SpirituallyMindful on aya forum said:
It's an interesting story also, I was going to just sample just enough to see if it worked, first I tried exactly 4 capsules of leaves rolled up + rue about 8:00 last night. That seemed to have an effect so I tried 4 more capsules of the same + rue about 9:30 and didn't get to sleep until after 6 this morning.
SpirituallyMindful on aya forum said:
Beggar lice is a roadside weed for sure, we are talking about big garbage bags full from the yard!!! This grows everywhere in the south and it only takes four capsules packed full of leaves to be plenty, (with 2 Syran rue tar capsules also) anything over that is uncomfortably too intense. (a good dose lasts at least 8 hours also).
SpirituallyMindful on aya forum said:
It's quite a bit stronger and lasts a long time not to mention it's much easyer to take. The first time I tried it I took four capsules with just rolled up leaves (not much at all) and some rue and could tell it had a definate effect, then I took four more capsules (unpacked) (+rue) and had an excellent exsperiance, I was amazed. I also made some tar extract successfully also. It is also more visual than the Caapi + Chucrana that I tried also, the visuals start before it starts taking effect. Traditional Ayahuasca made me feel a little bad too this seems to be a lot cleaner.

Now, Desmodium gangeticum does not seem to grow in the US, so I doubt that is the plant. Might not even be beggar lice either, but some other plant in the same genus.

From some searching I would guess that this guy lives in Alexandria, Louisiana: Anyone lives close by and knows about such a plant?

The Desmodium species has been tested for DMT, and some does seem to have a decent amount of it.

If this were true and someone could find the correct plant...

Apparently the plant looks something like this:
 
Desmodium species grow all over the world, and are quite abundant in some locales, including many regions of the U.S.

And if the common occurance of tryptamines in the several species that K. Trout studied is an indicator of the rest of the genus, then Desmodium holds a lot of untapped potential.

Trout's Notes on the Genus Desmodium
 
could be lespedeza bicolor which is considered somewhat invasive in the south they are in the same family and subfamily just a guess.
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