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Name that crystal
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NO PROBLEMO SENORE!!! 
69ron`s SWIM should thanx to God for this beautiful bufo obtained simply by extraction from natural sources.
It looks just lovely. Wish ILPT could get his paws on this stuff. It`s just like dream all the visuals without any nastiness.
SWIM should be careful:!: ILPT think, that in this purity it could become "slightly addictive" :lol:
69ron`s SWIM should thanx to God for this beautiful bufo obtained simply by extraction from natural sources.
It looks just lovely. Wish ILPT could get his paws on this stuff. It`s just like dream all the visuals without any nastiness.
SWIM should be careful:!: ILPT think, that in this purity it could become "slightly addictive" :lol:
69ron
Rising Star
What SWIM did on his ground Anadenanthera colubrina seeds was a typical A/B extraction using citric acid and 91% IPA to initially extract the seeds. Then he filtered and boiled it down, added 2 parts water, defatted 6 times with DCM. Then freebased it at pH 9.5 with sodium carbonate, then extracted 6 times with DCM. When the DCM evaporated he was left with an amber sticky goo that caused lots of side effects and was unpleasant.
He tried all sorts of things to try to make it less sticky (he even did another A/B on it) and nothing seemed to help.
But then he tried mixing the sticky goo in a combination of 2 parts MEK to 3 parts heptane in hopes of getting rid of the sticky material. He then poured off the solvent mix, boiled it down until it looked cloudy, and then he put aside the solvent mix. The following morning beautiful crystals were present. There was a very small amount of amber junk present, but it was mostly clear crystals. He was so amazed to see it. He wasn’t expecting to see such crystals. After vaporizing 10 mg of the purest, clearest crystals present, he was even more amazed to find out they were actually freebase bufotenine crystals! The experience was so clean. There was no tension, no nausea, just tingling and strong visuals. SWIM was VERY PLEASED.
It turns out the sticky material and the toxins present in the A/B extraction were both insoluble in a 2:3 mix of MEK to heptane.
The clear freebase crystals are almost odorless, very brittle, and leave no residue after vaporization. The smell is difficult to describe, it’s very faintly like DMT, but the smell is hard to detect.
The only other time SWIM saw real freebase crystals was when using Jonathan Ott’s tech, but they were a slightly different shape, same exact effects though. That tech is an impossible tech for SWIM these days because it requires chloroform (SWIM cannot get chloroform anymore).
SWIM is working on a simpler tech using common easy to get solvents that ends up with clear bufotenine crystals. It is sorely needed. So many people are using crappy extracts that have bufotenine AND the toxins. The toxins cause nausea and tension, sometimes even headache. They are very unpleasant and ruin the effects of Yopo.
He tried all sorts of things to try to make it less sticky (he even did another A/B on it) and nothing seemed to help.
But then he tried mixing the sticky goo in a combination of 2 parts MEK to 3 parts heptane in hopes of getting rid of the sticky material. He then poured off the solvent mix, boiled it down until it looked cloudy, and then he put aside the solvent mix. The following morning beautiful crystals were present. There was a very small amount of amber junk present, but it was mostly clear crystals. He was so amazed to see it. He wasn’t expecting to see such crystals. After vaporizing 10 mg of the purest, clearest crystals present, he was even more amazed to find out they were actually freebase bufotenine crystals! The experience was so clean. There was no tension, no nausea, just tingling and strong visuals. SWIM was VERY PLEASED.
It turns out the sticky material and the toxins present in the A/B extraction were both insoluble in a 2:3 mix of MEK to heptane.
The clear freebase crystals are almost odorless, very brittle, and leave no residue after vaporization. The smell is difficult to describe, it’s very faintly like DMT, but the smell is hard to detect.
The only other time SWIM saw real freebase crystals was when using Jonathan Ott’s tech, but they were a slightly different shape, same exact effects though. That tech is an impossible tech for SWIM these days because it requires chloroform (SWIM cannot get chloroform anymore).
SWIM is working on a simpler tech using common easy to get solvents that ends up with clear bufotenine crystals. It is sorely needed. So many people are using crappy extracts that have bufotenine AND the toxins. The toxins cause nausea and tension, sometimes even headache. They are very unpleasant and ruin the effects of Yopo.
WOW! Beautiful. Great Job
69ron
Rising Star
Jorkest said:
Yes, but those routes are very wasteful. SWIM tried it 90 minutes ago sublingually at 40 mg, and he felt it for sure, and still feels it now, but it was extremely mild, about as strong as 4 mg smoked with some pleasant tingling, and some very minor visuals. The taste is mild, sort of DMT-like, but very mild. It’s not bad at all. If doing it this way, I recommend some MAOI with it, and also one 500 mg tablet of ginger, just in case you swallow any. It upsets SWIM’s stomach if swallowed.
40 mg snorted is much stronger for SWIM, nearly twice as strong, about as strong as 8 mg smoked. It’s enough for pretty good visuals.
SWIM always feels sick whenever he snorts anything, even something inactive like sugar will make him feel sick if he snorts it. The last thing he snorted was THH and all it did was make him sick. SWIM has not been able to snort anything and not get sick from it.
SWIM prefers smoking it. You only need 10 mg for good visuals. It’s about 5 times stronger than snorting it, and about 10 times stronger than taking it sublingually. At least for SWIM it’s like that. If you smoke it slowly instead of all at once, it’s a smoother more drawn out experience.
69ron
Rising Star
By the way, smoked bufotenine goes really well with kola nut. The theobromine in the kola nut makes it more visual and more euphoric. It really enhances it quite a bit. It does the same for 5-MeO-DMT.
SWIM makes kola nut iced tea using 2 droppers full of kola nut extract, a little sweetener, and a few drops of lime juice. It tastes really good.
A similar enhancement effect can be had with cocoa, but SWIM finds kola nut is much better.
SWIM makes kola nut iced tea using 2 droppers full of kola nut extract, a little sweetener, and a few drops of lime juice. It tastes really good.
A similar enhancement effect can be had with cocoa, but SWIM finds kola nut is much better.
69ron
Rising Star
It’s not like an MAOI interaction, so it doesn’t much matter when you take it. It can even boost the end of the trip if you take it afterwards. SWIM usually takes the kola nut first, about 5 minutes before hand.
Kola nut is like an all around booster of psychedelics. Pretty much every psychedelic is improved by taking kola nut with it. HBWR is especially nice with kola nut.
Cocoa has similar boosting powers.
SWIM prefers kola nut for this enhancement because you only need to use a small amount, and the enhancement is stronger and more euphoric.
Kola nut on its own is a much nicer experience than cocoa. Cocoa makes you warm and tingly and slightly euphoric, but kola nut also makes you more alert and causes much more euphoria.
The reason Coca Cola originally had coca extract and kola nut extract in it was because the kola nut greatly improved the effects of the coca extract, making it much more pleasant. So kola nut is not just great for boosting the effects of psychedelics, it’s also great for boosting the effects of other psychoactive compounds.
Kola nut is like an all around booster of psychedelics. Pretty much every psychedelic is improved by taking kola nut with it. HBWR is especially nice with kola nut.
Cocoa has similar boosting powers.
SWIM prefers kola nut for this enhancement because you only need to use a small amount, and the enhancement is stronger and more euphoric.
Kola nut on its own is a much nicer experience than cocoa. Cocoa makes you warm and tingly and slightly euphoric, but kola nut also makes you more alert and causes much more euphoria.
The reason Coca Cola originally had coca extract and kola nut extract in it was because the kola nut greatly improved the effects of the coca extract, making it much more pleasant. So kola nut is not just great for boosting the effects of psychedelics, it’s also great for boosting the effects of other psychoactive compounds.
DAMNED that is beautiful!!! Incredible!! I'm green with envy.
I ended up with that sticky mess thrice now and didn't think crystal were possible. Is heptane readily available and what the heck is MEK? Swim's got a chemical cash-and-carry store nearby he just got wind of from a fellow local ethnobotanist.
Ron in the end were the seeds really the issue as previously discussed, or is the method that made the diff? How much columbrina did you begin with and what is yield?
Are you going to try the same with pelegrina?
Congratulations again.
I ended up with that sticky mess thrice now and didn't think crystal were possible. Is heptane readily available and what the heck is MEK? Swim's got a chemical cash-and-carry store nearby he just got wind of from a fellow local ethnobotanist.
Ron in the end were the seeds really the issue as previously discussed, or is the method that made the diff? How much columbrina did you begin with and what is yield?
Are you going to try the same with pelegrina?
Congratulations again.
While smoking is most effective it can lead to some minor discomforts in some users (even when pure). Snorting is effective especially as 69ron said, when using it with an MAOI. Jonathan Ot when he proved that bufotenine was an active compound tried virtually every method possible besides injection. He found that a dose from 30-100mg snuffed was active. Ingesting with an additional 10mg snuffed MAOI acted to double the effects. Thus if one snuffs 30mg B with 10mg harmaline this would be the equivalent as snuffing 60mg B on its own.
Snuffing it is very nice in its own right. It has a somewhat different effect as smoking it for SWIM. Visuals are minor but beautiful and the experience is very relaxing, at higher doses SWIM has zoned out only to notice an hour has zoomed by. Also SWIMs DAYDREAM ability seems to be enhanced with the MAOI+B combo. It is definitely a unique compound with interesting effects.
GOD DAMN those crystals are beautiful 69ron
Snuffing it is very nice in its own right. It has a somewhat different effect as smoking it for SWIM. Visuals are minor but beautiful and the experience is very relaxing, at higher doses SWIM has zoned out only to notice an hour has zoomed by. Also SWIMs DAYDREAM ability seems to be enhanced with the MAOI+B combo. It is definitely a unique compound with interesting effects.
GOD DAMN those crystals are beautiful 69ron
69ron
Rising Star
flyboy said:DAMNED that is beautiful!!! Incredible!! I'm green with envy.
I ended up with that sticky mess thrice now and didn't think crystal were possible. Is heptane readily available and what the heck is MEK? Swim's got a chemical cash-and-carry store nearby he just got wind of from a fellow local ethnobotanist.
Ron in the end were the seeds really the issue as previously discussed, or is the method that made the diff? How much columbrina did you begin with and what is yield?
Are you going to try the same with pelegrina?
Congratulations again.
Bestine is a good brand of heptane that is available over the counter in many places (it’s sold in some art supply stores). Heptane is very similar to naphtha. It’s less polar than naphtha. You could probably substitute heptane with naphtha, but you’d have to use more naphtha because it’s more polar.
MEK (Methyl Ethyl Ketone) is also known as butanone, ethylpropanone, and ethylmethylketone. It’s very similar to acetone, but less polar, and less water soluble. I’m pretty sure acetone could be substituted for it, but you’ll need to use less acetone because its more polar.
The seeds used were horrible quality seeds. SWIM was getting frustrated with then producing sticky nauseating extracts, so he tried everything he could think of to clean it up. He was mostly concerned with it not being sticky. Finally finding a solution to the stickiness that also produced nearly pure bufotenine crystals was a fabulous surprise to SWIM. It’s was just a matter of finding the right solvent mix. I’m sure there are probably other solvent mixes that will work, maybe even work better.
SWIM will try this with peregrine as well.
SWIM is not done experimenting. He’s not completely satisfied. Those crystals are mostly pure, but you can see some amber coloring present. That amber coloring is not bufotenine. But even so, the effect of the amber material is not noticeable, so for practical use, it’s fine as is.
SWIM’s goal is to help find a method to produce 98%+ pure crystals using commonly available over the counter solvents, common acids, etc., with as little steps as possible, and no lab equipment required.
I’ve got a question, which solvents are easy for most people to get over the counter?
69ron
Rising Star
bufoman said:
Thanks. They are beautiful. It’s amazing what nature is capable of.
Definitely. Snorting produces a different experience from smoking it. By smoking, it’s mostly visual, but when snorted, you get more of a spiritual experience from it. It’s more “mind expanding” when snorted. It also lasts a little longer.
Also, if you add a little calcium carbonate to it, it absorbs faster and is stronger. Calcium hydroxide works even better, but it burns.
Note that the burn from bufotenine is nothing compared to the burn of snorting DMT or 5-MeO-DMT. It’s very light.
SWIM enjoys the snorted experience, but unfortunately, SWIM can’t snort material without feeling ill. It doesn’t matter what the material is. Even pure sugar would make SWIM ill if he snorted it. For example, when snorted, THH (which SWIM loves orally and sublingually) makes him sick, 5-MeO-DMT (which SWIM loves sublingually) makes him sick, DMT makes him sick, etc. So SWIM can’t comment on side effects of anything that is snorted because just having something foreign in SWIM’s nose makes him feel sick.
Observant
Nothing Stops The Void
Well , SWIM doesnt know what others here can purchase. For him , here in Europe it seems to be impossible to buy MEK and DCM and even Toluene theyre all watched solvents.
He successfully ordered from online chemical suppliers , and Painter Supply Stores , which have quite a lot of solvents/chemicals for sale. (Heptane and Xylene are very expensive there)
What SWIM can get OTC in the Supermarket would be , Acetone , Ethanol/MEK Mix , H202, Isopropanol
Ethylacetate would also be no problem swim thinks.
He successfully ordered from online chemical suppliers , and Painter Supply Stores , which have quite a lot of solvents/chemicals for sale. (Heptane and Xylene are very expensive there)
What SWIM can get OTC in the Supermarket would be , Acetone , Ethanol/MEK Mix , H202, Isopropanol
Ethylacetate would also be no problem swim thinks.