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Nausea and Vasoconstriction

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Seraph

Seraph

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I plan to eat HBWR seeds (and syrian rue seeds at the same time) and I know they cause vasoconstriction and nausea but do they cause any DANGEROUS effects I should be concerned about?

I plan to try to get rid of the nausea and vasoconstriction but I don't know what to use. Would ginger ale work for nausea? Does anyone know of an cheap, potent vasodilator to counter the vasoconstriction? I could use garlic for vasodilation.

Here is my plan:

Eat syrian rue seeds, then eat HBWR seeds. Have ginger and garlic supplements available to counter nausea and vasoconstriction.

Does that sound like a good plan or can anyone suggest any improvements?
 
I believe theobromine, the main active alkaloid in tea is a vasodilator. However, I don't know if it is safe or not to use a vasodilating substance and vasoconstricting substance at the same time.
 
Fortunately syrian rue is a cheap & potent vasodilator.
What dosage are you planning on using? Have you tried a micro dose with this combo previously to determine where threshold effects begin?
 
Entheojen said:
I believe theobromine, the main active alkaloid in tea is a vasodilator. However, I don't know if it is safe or not to use a vasodilating substance and vasoconstricting substance at the same time.
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Ive done it countless times with bufotenine, which is about as constrictive as it gets..Ive mixed coffee, cacao, caapi, smoked harmalas, ginger and bufotenine all at once, I was fine. Dont do it just becasue I was okay though.
 
I'm quite the hbwr enthusiast and have no real problems with vasoconstriction. It's as if hbwr improves blood flow. During the coming up stage on high dose trips I have felt like my heart is about to leap out of my chest - it's just a matter of conquering the anxiety though... get anxious about the high heart rate - then you'll have problems for sure.

I eat a gram or so of ascorbic acid (vitamin C) an hour or so before eating the seeds and drink small amounts of peppermint tea and smoke weed during the come-up - this all seems to minimise nausea as it helps the seeds digest and the weed stops the high levels of salivation which can occur. Powdering the seeds and using gelcaps also helps.

I eat 15 usually and have experienced profound audio hallucinations which link strongly to emotional discharge. Haven't tried with syrian rue yet, but intend to at some point in the near future... tell us how it goes because there are very few reports out there! High doses tends to induce a strange delirium as well... managed to convince myself of magical happenings several times :p
 
I remember when I had vasoconstriction I actually enjoyed it a bit after I got over the anxiety/fear of it (it seemed to add to the surreal experience), but don't embrace it. I recommend dimenhydrinate (known as Dramamine, a motion sickness medicine) as a nausea controller. Heard that chocolate, ginger, cinammon and echinacea tea work well. Also THC and yohimbe.

Vasodilators - DMT-Nexus Wiki

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Thank you everyone for all your advice. I will be doing this soon (soon as in the next 3 months) but how soon depends on how much money I have and how long it takes for seeds to get where I am from the USA. I will be writing an experience report on my adventure here on the Nexus, I'm going to decide how I'm going to go about it dosage-wise by looking at the Erowid experience reports and the comments regarding how many seeds people ate in the comments sections of the online vendor I am buying from to achieve whatever effects they achieved. I'm going to go for a powerful trip, with the HBWR to syrian rue ratio I'm going to eat many of the syrian rue seeds because I've never seen harmalas tracers before and I would like to. As I'm going to being eating many syrian rue seeds I'm going to avoid eating vast amounts of HBWR seeds or else I would probably end up in a too-powerful-trip. :shock:
 
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