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Need advice: Lucid's not vivid enough

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Sky Motion

Sky Motion

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My lucid dreams are not vivid enough for my liking. I can never see things in a sharp clear vision. I still get the experience of what I'm doing, but it's not as striking as non lucid dreams.

I've tried being in the dream and spinning around to get myself more grounded in it. Only works for like 30 seconds..

I've also tried to shout various things such as:

"Increase vividness NOW"
"Increase lucidity NOW"
etc.

But they only help for a little bit :(

Any techniques you guys have to make the dream more immersive?
 
Something that has worked for me to varying degrees of success is to use my "hands" as a point of focus. I look at them for some period of time and then I look away from them at the scenery in the dream returning back and forth. This usually helps me stay in the dream while lucid and increases the clarity of the surroundings. It's been so long since I did a lot of reading on the subject so I'm not sure where I got this from, but I think the point is using anything to focus on and your hands are something that should always be present so they are a great tool to use.
 
it sounds like you may be trying too hard and waking up too much?

what malaclypse suggested is good to try.
keep your awareness on your body in the dream, I usually dance, do a handstand, do tai chi or outline my body in the dream.
anything to bring awareness of your body into the dream may help. keep us posted!
 
Sky Motion said:
My lucid dreams are not vivid enough for my liking. I can never see things in a sharp clear vision. I still get the experience of what I'm doing, but it's not as striking as non lucid dreams.

I've tried being in the dream and spinning around to get myself more grounded in it. Only works for like 30 seconds..

I've also tried to shout various things such as:

"Increase vividness NOW"
"Increase lucidity NOW"
etc.

But they only help for a little bit :(

Any techniques you guys have to make the dream more immersive?
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If you're at an impasse, I would highly recommend a supplement boost of Galantamine/choline.

This is a potent combo that is tried and tested by myself as well as experts in the field of chemical-assisted lucid dreaming. The Galantamine/choline will boost acetylcholine, increasing chances of becoming lucid as well as supercharging your already-lucid dream clarity and vividness.

Also, since you seem to have the basics down and are looking to deepen your experience, I would suggest you check out the book Advanced Lucid Dreaming: The Power of Supplements, by Thomas Yuschak.


Do not underestimate the effectiveness of chemically-assisted lucid dreams. Used correctly, they can produce spectacular results and sometimes intense out-of-body or sleep-paralysis experiences which may be too much for beginners. They can induce very long, high-level lucid dreams with increased sensory vividness, recall, and control of reason, emotion, and will.

Malaclypse said:
Something that has worked for me to varying degrees of success is to use my "hands" as a point of focus. I look at them for some period of time and then I look away from them at the scenery in the dream returning back and forth. This usually helps me stay in the dream while lucid and increases the clarity of the surroundings. It's been so long since I did a lot of reading on the subject so I'm not sure where I got this from, but I think the point is using anything to focus on and your hands are something that should always be present so they are a great tool to use.
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This technique was made popular by Carlos Castaneda, and is extremely effective at stabilizing the dream and increasing the clarity/vividness. I can definitely vouch for it.:)
 
Thanks so much SpartanII, I am going to look into that!

That's seems exactly what I need..

I tried the technique of looking at my hands in last nights lucid, and it worked pretty well actually. Got myself pretty grounded in it and then proceeded to do whatever I wanted..lasted probably a good 10-15 min!
 
Sky Motion said:
I tried the technique of looking at my hands in last nights lucid, and it worked pretty well actually. Got myself pretty grounded in it and then proceeded to do whatever I wanted..lasted probably a good 10-15 min!
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Can I ask which technique you're using to induce your lucids? I'm interested in people who seem to be able to induce them at will, and what their most common technique for that is.
 
Already in a dream and want to grab control:
Try 'jumping into' the dream. For example you could be dozing off on a couch in waking life, and then you'll hear a loud noise or something, and you just jump and snap to attention.

Do the same thing in the dream. When it's not clear, you're basically 'dozing off' on autopilot. Just snap to attention as if someone poured a bucket of ice cold water over your head and it will be instantly lucid. Essentially, be here now.

Inducing lucidity:
Another way to do it is to lie flat on your back totally still. Do not move, empty your mind. What you want is to be aware of the totally clear self-illumined nature of the mind: it's there whether you are awake, dreaming, asleep, unconscious, dead, not yet born. It's so light, effortless and empty that it's almost as if it isn't there.

You'll get faint thoughts or sense impressions floating around in your mind. These are basically 'seeds' for dreams, when you jump into dreamland they become entire dreams, scenarios, situations. Think of a good one, and now comes the tricky/crazy part. Effortlessly jump your entire being through the veil. As in, there's a void right in front of you: jump through it! It takes all of your might but absolutely no effort.

Correctly done, everything will instantly materialise as if it had always been there, as if that were the real world all along. Unlike most of the other techniques, going through the veil like this is not gentle in any way! It feels like getting blasted out of a cannon, like smoked spice but even faster. You'll land on your feet with an audible thump and you'll feel the solid textured floor, breathe what seems like real air. Just like waking up from a concussion.

From here on, it's practice. I find this method induces dreams that are a hell of a lot more vivid. There's no fogginess or 'dreaminess' or lack of control. Look in a mirror, you'll see your reflection. Flick on a lightswitch, it works. Read a book, all good. It's got the same cold, harsh feel to it as waking life. And pain really does hurt until you lose lucidity. It's not predictable like waking life and there's no protective bubble of invincibility like dream life. The combination of these factors makes this experience hair raising.
 
Lots of good information in here :thumb_up:

This series of videos explain quite well the whole supplements thing...
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