"Cosmosynthesis," Consciousness, and DMT Entities: An Invitation To Dialogue

[Ajqij]

In a cosmic nutshell, I suggest that "Cosmosynthesis" (to be clarified as we explore) is the mirror process of Photosynthesis. Just as plants are fed by sunlight, I submit to you that consciousness may be fed by starlight, (e.g., electromagnetic energy). Consciousness fundamentally equates to capacity, and our DMT hosts may well manifest within our consciousness as a way to make contact with us. At a cosmological scale, the universe may be the ultimate capacity that gives rise to all conscious beings through a "synthesis" between the unknown and the known, similar to what David Bohm called the "Implicit Order."

Science has struggled for nearly 100 years trying to understand the unknowable. Quantum advocates attempting to quantize space-time are being faced with an existential crisis of not being able to unify what is already unified, but not as an ultimate answer, but rather as an infinite question. The hidden proto-quantum strata that span the universe, (essentially the fabric of the cosmos) I suggest, possesses an infinitude of cosmological knowingness. This "knowingness" I submit to you, manifests in everything from what fuels the Chromodynamics of Gluons, to the DNA architectures responsible for the evolution of all matter, energy, and consciousness, and perhaps even the existence of our otherworldly DMT hosts. I want to emphasize that I do not believe what I'm suggesting is true, but rather simply wish to offer it up as a hypothesis for exploration.

 

[Varallo]

That is allot, so you want to explore this idea how exactly ? in my opinion this is mostly an very personal spiritual idea. Do you think it’s interesting to pick it apart a bit? And then approach from an perspective that prioritizes mysticism or is more an rational inquiry?

 

[Tripolation]

Science has struggled for nearly 100 years trying to understand the unknowable. Quantum advocates attempting to quantize space-time are going to discover that any theory they conjure up will fall many universes short of answers.

I read your article. I enjoy the idea and theory. I certainly do not mean to be dismissive but would like to play devil's advocate a bit here as I find myself in some disagreement.

I think your theory will fall into the exact same problem. Understanding the unknowable. Many DMT experiences under my belt and I have learned one thing for dang sure, and that is I know absolutely nothing about how reality works. We humans are far too limited to even scratch the surface. The universe operates more like a thought or dream. What you think is real, might not be at all. I am afraid that we will never know the answers to some questions no matter how much we slice and dice the universe, even at the quantum scale. It is all fine and good to ask the questions, create the theories and explore this universe in a scientific way, humans are far too limited to truly understand the unknowable. The ineffable will remain ineffable, no matter how hard we try to figure it out.

Sun worship is the oldest religion. We worshiped the sun before all else. Some believe the sun contains information and will stare into it to receive that info. Maybe something more than just light is coming out of the sun, but no one will ever know for sure. Perhaps the information is coming from black holes? There are current theories that the entire universe is inside a black hole. The event horizon forever out of reach.

'Defining yourself is like trying to bite your own teeth', if you don't mind me conjuring Alan Watts. We can never define it. The best we can do is observe ourselves and make some conclusions as to the rest. As above, so below. If we are aware, it would be a pretty good assumption that the universe is aware. I don't think you need a body, or star, or sun, or planet or any other container for consciousness. Consciousness is everything you see and you are a part of it. You cannot define it.

Some stuff will not cut, will not divide, will not slice or dice. You cannot add to it and you cannot take anything away from it. It needs nothing. You cannot measure it and if you try, well, you change it. It will remain ineffable, unknowable and I am fine with that.

I am quite sure someone with a much higher IQ than myself will chime in at some point. My opinion on the matter is novice at best.

 

[Ajqij]

Thank you Trip! I'm in total agreement about never knowing, that's why I hold anything I deduce or propose as only hypothesis and suggestion, which honors the awareness that not only is what I propose not the truth, it isn't even close to what the universe is or how it operates. Why I'm leaning towards the "cosmosynthesis" idea is that it is very clear that light is alchemized into glucose within the DNA of plants and that perhaps other wavelengths of light (or energy from black holes) may stimulate human DNA to generate cognitive capacity, which I suggest is the underlying medium through which consciousness evolves. I'll post some of my research about the correlations between photosynthesis and cosmosynthesis once I read a few more thoughtful replies like yours. Blessings!

 

[Ajqij]

That is allot, so you want to explore this idea how exactly ? in my opinion this is mostly an very personal spiritual idea. Do you think it’s interesting to pick it apart a bit? And then approach from an perspective that prioritizes mysticism or is more an rational inquiry?

Respectful dialogue is a way we can explore it I suppose. And yes, prioritizing as you suggest. I do caution that there is s fine line between "mysticism" and "rational thought" in that even the most rational of notions are not the end-all guage for what is real and what is not. So picking it apart, yes, as in examining smaller sections is a good way to proceed, as long as we remain open to possibilities and consider new or opposing ideas long enough to give them a chance to become possibilities. Many years ago I was Buckminster Fuller's event producer and he told me something I've never forgotten . . . "the impossible is impossible to understand, but the possible, now that's a different matter." Choose an area and let's un-puzzle together?

 

[Ajqij]

DMT Entities and Levels of Consciousness:
(Disclaimer - what follows are merely ideas and a hypothesis rather than a claimed truth.)
To explore the possible origins of DMT entities, let's examine the medium in which contact occurs - our overall faculity of consciousness. Fundamentally, consciousness equates to “capacity,” an experiential container for our five senses, our cognitive faculties of intellect, reason, and memory, and our qualia traits of insight, emotion, and self-awareness. Consciousness also serves as a place of convergence between the inner and outer world, a nexus point in which incoming sensory data is received, processed, and responded to (consciously and unconsciously) by our cognitive and qualia faculties.

Regarding the qualia trait of "self-awareness," it’s important to note that the “self” we call “I,” which accompanies consciousness, appears to reside somewhere behind our eyes and between the inner and outer world we experience. But upon closer examination, it’s impossible to pin down exactly where the self is located. What is clear, however, is that wherever it resides, it can serve as either an asset or a liability when it comes to accessing higher levels of consciousness.

The asset characteristic of the self is that it provides a personalized position of continuity that collects, reflects upon, and processes the flow of life that sentient beings like us are gifted to experience. Its liability characteristic, however, is that the presence of the self creates an arbitrary separation between the inner and outer world, a division that simply does not exist. By “being in the way” as it were, the self is a persistent obstacle that obscures our ability to access universal knowingness. Fortunately, substances such as DMT invite the self we believe we are to step aside and allow more direct access! ~ Before continuing on, I'm interested in exploring these ideas with those of you who have some experience under your entity contact belt.

 

[Voidmatrix]

Sun worship is the oldest religion. We worshiped the sun before all else. Some believe the sun contains information and will stare into it to receive that info. Maybe something more than just light is coming out of the sun, but no one will ever know for sure. Perhaps the information is coming from black holes? There are current theories that the entire universe is inside a black hole. The event horizon forever out of reach.

'Defining yourself is like trying to bite your own teeth', if you don't mind me conjuring Alan Watts. We can never define it. The best we can do is observe ourselves and make some conclusions as to the rest. As above, so below. If we are aware, it would be a pretty good assumption that the universe is aware. I don't think you need a body, or star, or sun, or planet or any other container for consciousness. Consciousness is everything you see and you are a part of it. You cannot define it.

Some stuff will not cut, will not divide, will not slice or dice. You cannot add to it and you cannot take anything away from it. It needs nothing. You cannot measure it and if you try, well, you change it. It will remain ineffable, unknowable and I am fine with that.

I am quite sure someone with a much higher IQ than myself will chime in at some point. My opinion on the matter is novice at best.

But how do you know? I couldn't help myself.

Science has struggled for nearly 100 years trying to understand the unknowable

I wouldn't say science, but people and how people use science. We assume science can explain everything we want it to by virtue of materialist assumptions which are commonly accepted by happenstance and conditioning. A lot of theories in this domain (philosophy of mind) have roughly equal soundness.

We also have to bear in mind the limits of science such as the use of unobserved observables. That's a bit fallacious, but necessary for the system to work.

I submit to you that consciousness may be fed by starlight, (e.g., electromagnetic energy)

Could we not then broaden our source to just electromagnetism. Especially considering the wild experiences of consciousness one can have in complete darkness (deprivation tanks, darkness retreats, eye shades for guiding).

Consciousness fundamentally equates to capacity, and our DMT hosts may well manifest within our consciousness as a way to make contact with us.

This brings to mind an idea I've had for a while. DMT may allow us to "exit" ourselves (physical being and consensus reality) through doorways found inside of our minds. Very paradoxical. And these doorways actually lead somewhere else, not just within.

Fundamentally, consciousness equates to “capacity,” an experiential container for our five senses, our cognitive faculties of intellect, reason, and memory, and our qualia traits of insight, emotion, and self-awareness. Consciousness also serves as a place of convergence between the inner and outer world, a nexus point in which incoming sensory data is received, processed, and responded to (consciously and unconsciously) by our cognitive and qualia faculties.

Now, is this consciousness or functions of consciousness. I'd lean towards functions, for in hyperspace, you may have more than five senses.

Regarding the qualia trait of "self-awareness," it’s important to note that the “self” we call “I,” which accompanies consciousness, appears to reside somewhere behind our eyes and between the inner and outer world we experience. But upon closer examination, it’s impossible to pin down exactly where the self is located. What is clear, however, is that wherever it resides, it can serve as either an asset or a liability when it comes to accessing higher levels of consciousness.

Humoring duality, what if it's non-local and immaterial, and in a sense we've been "looking" for it in the wrong ways.

The container for discussion is open!

One love

 

[Tripolation]

But how do you know? I couldn't help myself.

Oh god.. I don't know jack squat my friend. I am clueless. I fully admit it.

 

[Voidmatrix]

Oh god.. I don't know jack squat my friend. I am clueless. I fully admit it.

We row the boat together because neither do I. That's one thing I do know.

One love

 

[Ajqij]

But how do you know? I couldn't help myself.


I wouldn't say science, but people and how people use science. We assume science can explain everything we want it to by virtue of materialist assumptions which are commonly accepted by happenstance and conditioning. A lot of theories in this domain (philosophy of mind) have roughly equal soundness.

We also have to bear in mind the limits of science such as the use of unobserved observables. That's a bit fallacious, but necessary for the system to work.


Could we not then broaden our source to just electromagnetism. Especially considering the wild experiences of consciousness one can have in complete darkness (deprivation tanks, darkness retreats, eye shades for guiding).


This brings to mind an idea I've had for a while. DMT may allow us to "exit" ourselves (physical being and consensus reality) through doorways found inside of our minds. Very paradoxical. And these doorways actually lead somewhere else, not just within.


Now, is this consciousness or functions of consciousness. I'd lean towards functions, for in hyperspace, you may have more than five senses.


Humoring duality, what if it's non-local and immaterial, and in a sense we've been "looking" for it in the wrong ways.

The container for discussion is open!

One love

Great insights and suggestions V. So to respond . . . electromagnetism isn't limited to visual light, but includes the entire spectrum of energetic frequencies . . . so blind-folded, tanked, or even encased in lead would not inhibit the cosmosynthesis/consciousness convergence as I have suggested it. My explanation wasn't intended to assign conciousness to any content, (e.g., five senses, cognitive or emotive faculties, self-awareness, etc.) it was to suggest that consciousness is "unbounded capacity," without form much like the unbounded nature of the universe. I liken it to our share in consciousness as being a micro-dose of the macro hit of hyperspace. And I'm in total agreement with your suggestions of non-locality and immateriality, so I defer to that insight and thank you for your thoughtful and heartful responses! Shall we carry on my dear fellow hyper-traveler?

 

[Ajqij]

We row the boat together because neither do I. That's one thing I do know.

One love

That makes three in the boat . . . without paddles!

 

[Voidmatrix]

That makes three in the boat . . . without paddles!

Doesn't bother me as long as we have DMT (preferrably changa) and mangoes.

it was to suggest that consciousness is "unbounded capacity,"

Have you noticed how at the same time it is (or seems, I'm a skeptic, "is" is a loaded word) bounded? It's like a bounded boundlessness similar to how one can contain an infinitude in a finitude.

electromagnetism isn't limited to visual light, but includes the entire spectrum of energetic frequencies . . . so blind-folded, tanked, or even encased in lead would not inhibit the cosmosynthesis/consciousness convergence as I have suggested it.

Thank you for the clarification. I just wasn't sure based on how the OP was written, or rather, my interpretation of it.

One love

 

[Ajqij]

Doesn't bother me as long as we have DMT (preferrably changa) and mangoes.


Have you noticed how at the same time it is (or seems, I'm a skeptic, "is" is a loaded word) bounded? It's like a bounded boundlessness similar to how one can contain an infinitude in a finitude.


Thank you for the clarification. I just wasn't sure based on how the OP was written, or rather, my interpretation of it.

One love

Totally get your skepiscm about word play, and yes, I've noticed how language and the mind can lead us down the rabbithole of mental masterbation. "The mind struggles to understand what the heart has always known." I've shared this little insight for years with those I take to the Mesoamerican ruins and hold ceremonies with. Without an open heart, people totally miss who the ancients were and who their ancestors are. No worries about clarifications BTW, I feel every point you make enhances my beingness, thank you.

 

[Voidmatrix]

I sometimes wonder if it's just my neurotic philosophical positions. The word "is" seems very declarative to me, and is almost senseless for me to use if I don't know much.

And thank you. You bring a bright, and welcoming presence that I'm really resonating with.

One love

 

[Tripolation]

I sometimes wonder if it's just my neurotic philosophical positions. The word "is" seems very declarative to me, and is almost senseless for me to use if I don't know much.

And thank you. You bring a bright, and welcoming presence that I'm really resonating with.

One love

I feel the same way Ajqij. Good to have you here.

I think I may refrain from the high intellectual convos from here on out. I can't keep up with you guys in the least. Crazy how smart yall are. Sometimes I just like to participate and engage is all.

 

[Voidmatrix]

I feel the same way Ajqij. Good to have you here.

I think I may refrain from the high intellectual convos from here on out. I can't keep up with you guys in the least. Crazy how smart yall are. Sometimes I just like to participate and engage is all.

I'm gonna stop ya. I encourage you to stay in. Ask us questions, Google stuff when it comes up. Don't sell yourself short.

One love

 

[Ajqij]

I feel the same way Ajqij. Good to have you here.

I think I may refrain from the high intellectual convos from here on out. I can't keep up with you guys in the least. Crazy how smart yall are. Sometimes I just like to participate and engage is all.

Well . . . I'm enjoying your company and your sharing also Trip. And for whatever it's worth, the level of smarts don't mean shit . . . what really matters is the depth of our hearts and the openness of our minds . . . both of which I feel you have plenty of. Blessings and as the Maya say, In Lak'ech, (I am another yourself)

 

[Ajqij]

I'm gonna stop ya. I encourage you to stay in. Ask us questions, Google stuff when it comes up. Don't sell yourself short.

One love

I second Void . . . heh, which sounds kinda strange cuz how can one second something that doesn't even have a first? LOL

 

[Tripolation]

I was largely offering a compliment to you guys. My self deprecation is given with humor as I don't want to dumb it down. We are all smart in our own ways I suppose. Intellectual conversations are not really in my bag. It's not about comprehension, I just don't talk the way you guys do. It's like another language.

Please continue. It's enjoyable and interesting to watch smart people do their thing.

 

[Ajqij]

I was largely offering a compliment to you guys. My self deprecation is given with humor as I don't want to dumb it down. We are all smart in our own ways I suppose. Intellectual conversations are not really in my bag. It's not about comprehension, I just don't talk the way you guys do. It's like another language.

Please continue. It's enjoyable and interesting to watch smart people do their thing.

Your appreciation is noted and I for one, thank you for clarifying your position and honor it and you!