need help findin mdma alternative

[bonger]

Its as if every week another person quits getting pure mdma last time i took some "pure" mdma it was 6-apb no fun just fucking intense at 150mg and kinda scary. But what is the closest mdma alternative weather its a 2c-x or something idc just want to find something that is as close to it as im going to get without searhcing for pure or getting ripped off.


I do however now own a reagent kit and when i reliable friend comes along i test some. but for the time being what else is there.


havent really been on nexus in a long time or even looked into these things in a while


thanks in advance for all the help

 

[Infinite I]

Peruvian torch cactus as is or as resin has some similarities but you dont get the heavy euphoria or energy but its still a pretty great alternative. Polytrip done some experiments with peyote and said it was very close to mdma, maybe search for his posts here.

Rc discussion is not received well here but tbh you dont get many rc's that are an mdma replacement, one or two are maybe close, very easy to find out with google but theyre never as good as or they give a couple of good experiences then thats it, after that your stuck with dysphoria, edginess, paranoia and other lovely side effects. :roll:

 

[bonger]

thanks for the input i dont really enjoy long trips too much any more ive trippe just under a hundred and im only 18 thats why i dont really wanna try mesc/peyote but enjoy dmt/ket cause there short and sweet also mdma and shrooms are still short enuf where i dont feel like im loosing my marbles.

 

[zombicyckel]

Follow the rules! "Discouraged drug talk: RCs, Datura, Kratom, Ketamine, Opiates"

 

[bonger]

ok there are stilll dozens of posts relating to each, why is mine receiving the beef?

 

[zombicyckel]

well the nexus doesnt want to involve itself with illegal substances. The guy who runs and pays this site, doesnt wanna get into legal problems. Even mimosa talk of buying and selling isnt allowed anymore. Besides, this site is more about plants. and not general party drugs.


The admins of the site do try to keep all its members to follow the rules. and its not easy to find every little post that doesnt follow the rules.

 

[bonger]

There are multiple RC threads and dissiociotive thread all about dxm/ket/mxe/pcp right below mine and then more on the following pages i realy feel like this is a little strange why mine?

 

[DeMenTed]

I see your point bonger. Maybe the other psycoactives thread should be deleted as it's mostly about rc's. would be a shame though. I think The Traveler needs to clear this situation up.

 

[bonger]

No I just think we all need to be a little more excepting I mean we are not all angels here people come here looking for safe advice rather than outdated forums and websites and we all know which ones I speak of

 

[zombicyckel]

Its not about that, probably half the folks here have done rc, opiates, kratom, ketamine. Its just a matter of projecting the best image and safe way to go about it. Alot of these rcs and what not have some serious risks coming with it. Bad supplier, wrong label, not enough studies to show what people cant take it. ect and ect.

And we need to look out for the site ower too, he pays 500 euros every month from his own pocket to keep this place running and give it security/program updates nearly everyday. So if he doesnt wish talk about Rc, opiates, kratom, ketamin ect its our responsibility to watch out for the guy

 

[bonger]

We leave the other rc/ket/kratom threads up because they help people but new ones we turn down?

truly it doesnt make since i understand he doesnt want them posted here but if so then they should have been shut down when there head line is anything like RC name or Ketamine in the headline

these threads about rc/ket and even kratom and opiates help people i dont know why we would shut them down

 

[christian]

Bonger, there are research chemical forums for such answers.

There are some rc's supposedly similar to mdma by reports of others, but wether they are legal or illegal in your country is another thing.

 

[The Traveler]

People probably refer to this thread: [NEW] Policy regarding discussion of different drugs

Different substances can be discussed but a good safety profile and a good reason for discussing it should be added.


Currently we are in the process of creating two new subfora that will have enhanced safety profiles added to them: Nootropics and Novel Psychoactive Substances (RC's). When you make a new thread in those subfora you have to state the substance where the topic is about, after choosing the substance the safety profile of that substance will be shown at the top of the thread and it will include things like side effects and extra safety warnings.

These new subfora will only be visible to full members (so new members cannot discuss them).


Kind regards,

The Traveler

 

[bonger]

THANK YOU TRAV finally somewhere reliable that is going to give us all the safety tips we need

 

[Xemnas]

These new subfora will only be visible to full members (so new members cannot discuss them).

I love the idea of these new subforums. Looking forward to them. Won't we have to crack down harder on who becomes a full member now though? Not that that's a bad thing.


Anyways, Bonger, I think your original question has been answered as best as it can be. IME, there are some drugs with similarities to others, but overall if you want a specific drug you should just do that drug and not try and replace it with another. And, IMO, if you simply cannot wait for a pure and reliable product, then you have some reflecting to do and should analyze why you're using it and what the reason is for your impatience.

But, to echo what others have said, I have heard that certain cacti in the lower dose range can be very similar to MDMA (and probably healthier), though I have no experience with that myself.

 

[Metanoia]

I would echo what has been said.

Natural alternatives are better for both your body and mind. Cactus.

Ordering RC's even from reputable suppliers is risky. Accidentally mislabeled or impurities, constantly changing legalities, etc.

It's your body and your life, you can do with it what you will. But I speak from experience when I say it's not worth it.

 

[Jin]

a low dose of ayahuasca is more ecstatic then mdma can ever be , and without the side effects and the coming down experience of mdma which feels horrible

go natural , try cactus or ayahuasca , cactus no doubt will be most similar to mdma
also on higher doseages both these entheogens can be nothing like mdma , so go for a lower dose

also mdma is really crap if you've worked with other entheogens you'll know , it feels toxic on so many levels

 

[DoingKermit]

I agree with Jin.

A low dose cactus trip feels close to MDMA, but has a more natural feeling to it as well. Something I don't get on MD.

 

[pinkoyd]

"a low dose of ayahuasca is more ecstatic then mdma can ever be"

For me aya is emotionally flat, no euphoria at all regardless of dose, possibly because of how harmala alks interact with my physiology. On the other hand I never have dysphoric episodes on it either. Great visuals and sometimes entity contact, but this is all overlayed by a slightly (sometimes strongly) sleepy feeling unless I enhance the brew with some guayusa or e. novo.

Each person's reaction to particular substances is unique, so YMMV, as they say...

Just so, each substance is unique in it's action and I don't think anything will give the exact profile of effects that MDMA has. Much has been written over at Bluelight on the quest for an MDMA replacement, but to my knowledge no one has come up with the goods. It's been a while since I checked in over there, so my information may be dated.

 

[universecannon]

cactus.

also, lower/mid doses of mushrooms followed by bong hits of caapi leaf or vine. Way better than any mdma experience i've ever had.

high doses of cacao with a tiny bit of harmalas (DONT overdue that combo)