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Noman's MHRB Extraction - as Edited by Zhah

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DMT for the Masses ...a mhrb extraction tek by Noman Disclaimer ========== First thing's first. Performing this procedure is illegal in most countries. I do not advocate performing it where illegal and I do not perform it myself where illegal. The intent of this tek is to simplify the extraction procedure as much as possible and make it doable for the average person in the average kitchen in an evening. While I think that I have accomplished this, it does not mean that one does not have to do their homework. You should read a few teks before deciding on one and research the chemicals and procedures that you will be using. I don't give instructions for decanting, siphoning, and filtering, for example, because I assume that you have educated yourself on these simple procedures and that I don't have to clutter up my tek with them. You should treat this procedure as a starting point from which it is up to you to discover the best way to proceed based upon the materials and equipment available to you. Okay, so onward to DMT for the Masses. Have fun, be safe, and share your findings! Materials ========= To Extract DMT from Mimosa hostilis root bark (mhrb) You will need: * Dust mask, safety goggles and rubber gloves * Mimosa hostilis root bark * A coffee grinder or heavy duty blender (one that will crush ice) * Mixing jar -- this should be glass with a wide mouth and a tight fitting lid. A quart jar can do 50g of bark, a gallon pickle jar can do 200g. * Water * Lye (granulated NaOH) * Vinegar (for neutralizing lye spills) * Naptha -- get VM+P and not lighter fluid * Collection jars - 4 wide mouth 8oz (250ml) jelly jars with lids * Separating apparatus - a separatory funnel is easiest but siphoning and decanting will work fine * Coffee filters * Rubber spatula * Very cold freezer -- should freeze ice cream HARD * Non-sudsy ammonia (10% solution, e.g. "janitorial strength" is optimal but 5% "household strength" will work) * Eye-dropper Extraction Procedure ==================== 1. The first step is to pulverize the bark until it's just fiber and pink/purple dust. It should be snapped into small pieces and run through a coffee grinder or blender at high speed. You may need pruning shears to cut the bark small enough to grind properly. It needs to be completely broken down. The dust created is very fine and astringent to the respiratory tract. Unless you dig big cakey purple boogers, wear a mask. 2. Mix 15ml water and 1g lye per gram of bark in the mixing jar. For example: 50g bark would require 750ml water and 50g lye. One level tablespoon of lye weighs about 15g, though this can vary considerably, better to use a scale. Note that lye is dangerous. Blind you forever dangerous. Wear eye protection and have a bottle of vinegar handy as a neutralizer and for clean up. Add the lye to the water slowly stirring constantly until completely dissolved. 3. Add the bark, cap and shake the jar and let the bark soak for awhile. An hour or so. 4. Now add 1ml naptha per gram of bark in the mixing jar and turn the jar end over end. Do not shake or splash or there will be a tendency for the solution to form an emulsion. Simply roll the naptha around in the bark solution. Do this for one minute and then let the jar stand until the naptha has pretty much separated to the top. Repeat agitation three more times. 5. After the final agitation, separate the two layers. The naptha (top layer) goes in one of the collection jars, the rest stays in the mixing jar with the bark. 6. Put the collection jar in the freezer. 7. Repeat steps 4 to 6 three more times. Leave the last NP extraction in the jar for a day or two, agitating occasionally to pick up any strays. 8. Go to bed. You should have a collection of snow globes waiting for you in the morning. 9. Pour each jar of naptha out through a coffee filter. Save the naptha, which can be reused in the next batch or evaporated down producing a residue which can be further refined (see recrystallization below). A lot of paste will stick to the sides of the jar, so use a small rubber spatula to scrape the sides down onto the filter as well. Spread each filter out to dry. There will still be some residue in the jars, a bit of Salvia or MJ will scrub them out nicely. 10. Once the paste has dried THOROUGHLY (chop and stir it a couple of times), crush any lumps up and combine it all into one coffee filter. Now wash the lot by pouring freezer temperature NON-SUDSY ammonia over it and through the coffee filter. This will remove any remaining lye and some other impurities from the extract. If you can get 10% ammonia ("janitorial strength") all the better. Most important, though, is NON-SUDSY: shake the bottle, if it suds, get a different bottle. It won't take much, 100ml or so for a 200g batch, just make sure all the powder is thoroughly wetted, stir it around while washing. A good bit of the mass will wash away (25-45%) but it's nothing you want to be smoking anyway. (Note: if you intend to recrystallize, you can omit the ammonia wash). You should be left with somewhere in the vicinity of 0.5% of the weight of the root-bark in DMT powder. It is perfectly smokable at this point, but it can be refined further by recrystallization. Although recrystallization inevitably results in loss of goods, once you've had a hit of DMT that left absolutely NOTHING behind in the pipe, you won't want to use anything else. Recrystallization ================= The idea behind recrystallization is that solvents generally hold more solute when hot than cold and that the solubility of different solutes varies differently with temperature. If a solvent with a lot of different solutes dissolved in it cools down slowly, the different solutes will precipitate individually. Naptha will work for this but heptane is better. Heptane is available as Bestine -- a rubber cement remover. Place a glass container with the DMT and a glass container of the recrystallization solvent together in a pan of hot water. Shot glasses in a saucepan work well for a gram or two. The fumes from whatever solvent you use will be extremely flammable, so don't use a gas stove or light a bowl or be otherwise stupid. The DMT will already be melting if the water is hot enough. Add the hot solvent little by little (eye-dropper), agitating until all of the DMT is dissolved. Use as little solvent as possible. It should take only about 20-30ml of solvent per gram of powder. The solvent will be a clear yellow. Leave the pan of water with the DMT container to cool to room temperature. Remove the DMT container and cool in the refrigerator, then the freezer. You will end up with DMT crystals of varying purity atop a pellet of slag which still contains quite a bit of DMT but also lye if you skipped the ammonia wash. Filter the solvent and separate the crystals from the slag. The crystals can be refined in one or two more recrystallizations into pure clear DMT if desired. The slag can also be further refined or simply redissolved into the next batch. The solvent can be reused or evaporated down and the residue scraped and cleaned. And don't forget to scrub those jars and utensils with your favorite smoking herb!
 
I'm now doing my first quick tek on MHRB. I have done everything exactly as described above. I now have a jar of 150mL of naphta solution in my freezer. It has been 1.5 hours since I put the light yellow naphta in there. It is now white cloudy and I think there already are orange colored crystals on the bottom of the jar, but it's hard to see because of the white solution the naphta has become. Is this looking good so far? I have only evaporated naphta, so I don't really have experience with this. As far as I can see it's OK, but I'm a little worried about the white cloud. I put 50g of lye in 750mL as described, but I'm guessing it's way and way too many. I calculated about 15g per liter should be OK. Perhaps the white cloud is precipitating lye?
 
Swim has freeze preciped with naptha and pure heptane and they both do exactly what you described it gets white and cloudy after a few hours then it will start to form crystals which for Swim either appear as white bumps at the bottom of the jar or it forms crystalline patters that grow up the side of the jar and out of the actual solution. Quantumbrujo is this normal for crystals to grow up and out of the naptha/heptane They are usually whiteish but are sometimes completely clear and form patters that resemble roots(see illustration) but it will yeild crystals but wait until the Naptha is completely clear or yellowish clear until you collect the goods ............| | || .............| | | this is the best that I could do I am to a master at drawing ..............| | shit with random symbols but I think it illustrates what ...............| swim is trying to say isthey branch out more as they go up from the naptha/heptane starting from one point and spreading out
 
Yellowish naptha turning white and cloudy is just what you want. Like ambiguos said, wait until the naptha goes back to clear and then collect. I know what a HUGE amount of lye that seems like, but it is needed to get the alks out of the bark and into solution in such a short time. We're doing a lot more than just converting salts that are already in solution to base like in an A/B. Very little, if any, lye comes over - certainly nowhere near enough to cloud your solution.
 
Thanks ambiguos and Noman. I'm happy to hear I'm probably on the right track. I'm leaving the solution in the freezer overnight as suggested in the tek. I'm hoping to see crystals like the ones ambiguos described in the morning. Perhaps a tiny bit of lye gets into the crystals, but we can wash them away with ammonia anyway. Thanks for the information, guys. It's much appreciated. EDIT: Oh, and ambiguos (or anyone else who can tell) how long did it take to form those huge crystals? I checked the solution after 3 hours and not much was happening.
 
You won't get big crystals from a freeze precip. You'll get white or yellow powder that is just a bit sparkly. For crystals, you'll need to recrystalize and for huge crystals you'll need to redissolve your recrystalized product in naptha and let it very slowly evaporate - like over a couple weeks time.
 
Ok, thanks again. So how about the powder; how much time will it take to create those? I filtered the solution too early (after 4 hours) and I don't want to made that mistake again. Thanks in advance.
 
Overnight at least. 24 hours is better. If you got anything solid after 4 hours, there's a shitload of alks in the solvent. :D Make sure you wash that filter out, there's likely a lot of fine particulate caught up in it. Remember this is a quick tek, not an instant tek. Those of us that started out with Quantum Tantra waited weeks. 😉 BTW, ambiguos - so you've extracted and freeze preciped with heptane? How would you compare it with naptha? My friend has only used it for recrystalization.
 
[quote:92f3a467a0="Noman"]Overnight at least. 24 hours is better. If you got anything solid after 4 hours, there's a shitload of alks in the solvent. :D Make sure you wash that filter out, there's likely a lot of fine particulate caught up in it. Remember this is a quick tek, not an instant tek. Those of us that started out with Quantum Tantra waited weeks. 😉 BTW, ambiguos - so you've extracted and freeze preciped with heptane? How would you compare it with naptha? My friend has only used it for recrystalization.[/quote:92f3a467a0] SWIM has tried Quantum Tetra's tek, but he didn't have enough patience to get even near the crystals he has seen on this forum. It was smokeable, but compared to the experiences other people had with it, he didn't seem to have had a real breakthrough. He did get a pleasant feeling, though. Let's see what I find in the freezer in 7 hours :) (that's after 12 hours of freezing)
 
Ok, after about 12 hours of freezing, I decided to filter the solvent solution. A lot of tiny round crystals had stuck to the sides of the jar. I filtered the solution through a coffee filter, but there didn't seem to stick anything to it. I had expected to have a bit larger crystals or "snow flakes" as described which I could filter and let dry. Anyway, the small crystals look much like the lye powder I use and look exactly the same as the ones angryanus posted before. This is the photo angryanus posted before with crystals that resemble mine: [img:ab33940647]http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7288/dsc02382jl7.th.jpg[/img:ab33940647] It's hard to collect them because they're extremely fragile. They break up in tiny bits of dust when I try to scrape them up. Alltogether everything didn't went as I had expected. I'm not even sure if the crystals als smokeable or even contain DMT. EDIT: I'm still not sure if I was succesful, but I'm a littlebit more confident now. I allowed the small white crystals to dry a bit and then scraped them out. It only resulted in a tiny bit of whitish-yellowish crystals.
 
don't be so pessemistic Doerak what you described sounded pretty familiar (to swim at least ;) those crystals are a bitch to filter and they always stuck to the sides and had to be scraped off with something swim likes to wait until the freezer is on, like blowing cold are at the time to pull the jar out so it is at it's max cold level. swim has tried to just pour out the naptha leaving the crystals behind and then putting the jar back it the freezer that way to last of the solvent could evap while still cold enough not to dissolve the crystal but swim thinks it's to cold for the naptha to evap, there is always so wettness left it the jar even after an hour with no lid in the freezer. swim also tried to move it to the fridge after like ten minutes in the freezer with no lid to let the jar warm up a little with out collecting condensation but every time swim does this the crystals always just end up melting and leaving little dots of clear liquid that does not evaporate. swim has only worked with small quantities though and is going to try a go with 100g probably alot easier filtering out alot of crystals instead of just a pinch alright swim was ranting there a little any input from noman or Quantumbrujo would be appreciated oh yeah and doerak those yellowish whiteish crystals sound exactly like what swim collected and they worked just fine
 
I think I'll not be using a coffee filter next time. I think I'll just pour the naphta of and freeze precip that again. The crystals left in the jar will be scraped off. After the naphta in the freezer has again formed crystals I'll repeat this step until no crystals are formed.
 
Here's what happened to the last jar of naptha that my friend in Antarctica left sitting out overnight: [img:f63f68f66b]http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7967/dsc0035gu9.jpg[/img:f63f68f66b] Lots will stick to the side of the jar which is why I advise using straight sided canning jars that can be scraped with a small rubber spatula. What my friend does is secure a coffee filter across the top of a jar with a slightly wider mouth than the solvent jar and upend the solvent jar onto that like this: [img:f63f68f66b]http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/4341/dsc0001ix2.jpg[/img:f63f68f66b] Then he lets it sit and drip dry and come up to room temp. After that, it's a simple matter to scrape out the sides and bottom with the spat. Hope this helps. :)
 
Doreak, [quote:ec0b71f46c]Anyway, the small crystals look much like the lye powder I use and look exactly the same as the ones angryanus posted before: [/quote:ec0b71f46c] Swim used MUCH more lye than that (around 100 g for one liter !) and he is sure now that his yelowish/white crystals are DMT and not lye and it does melt at quite low temp. Swim do not think that lye is soluble in naphta or in very very small amount... Swim was quite disapointed by the yield he estimate hardly to less than 1 g for 250 mg MHRB powder :cry: He expect to gather a bit more from further naphta extraction, but mainly yellow/orange crystals.
 
Noman, thanks for the detailed photos. I saw exactly the same kind of crystals in my jar. There were just not as many, but they looked the same. I used some sort of tupperware like curved glass container. It worked pretty well, but it takes a lot of space in my freezer. I'll look out for the canning jars. Garulfo, thanks for your reply! I am sure there isn't any lye in it now too. Lye will not dissolve in naphta, but my crystals did. They also melted when heated with a hairdryer, so it's impossible that there's even lye in it. I let SWIM use a tiny tiny bit of the yellowish crystals. He told me he estimated the dose on 10 ~ 20mg tops. He said he just wanted to taste the crystals for a bit to check the purity. He was extremely suprised when he felt like he had smoked lots and lots of MJ in under 20 seconds. He had never experienced anything like this before, he told me. The goo he got from QT's tek was far less potent, that's for sure. Thanks again guys. Your help is very much appreciated!
 
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