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Nomans tek low yeild

stinkyfish

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Hello. Have been reading and looking around for years but never joined. I have done nomans tek 4 times and every time my yield is crap. 100 grams of root bark and every time, it is less than a gram. I follows the tek perfect and still less than a gram. My friend does the same tek and yields 3 grams sometimes. What am I doing wrong?
 
Would like to get a nice amount as this life is disgusting to me and only when I am is in dmt land that it is worthwhile.
That's a bit sad stinkyfish, that might not be the best reasons to be doing DMT if it's nothing more than an escape as I feel there could be more going on there.

Regardless, is your friend using the same bark and the same brands (I.e solvents etc).?
If not this could be an issue.
In addition is your PH levels optimal?
Is your solvent pulled at room temp or warmed?
How long are you freezing for and at what temperature.
Are you shaking in the solvent in or just lightly swirling it?
This information would be a good start as to why your yields are low.

Have you thought about conducting a a/b instead? Or using a secondary more "broad" spectrum solvent for the last pull like toulene or xylene to get more dmt out?
 
My life is sad, disgusting and a waste. That is my problem not anyone elses. I ain't looking for sympathy or help as I will be leaving this place when the time is right. Same bark, same solvent is being used. It is being done at room temperature and rolling it instead of shaking once the solvent is added. As to the leaving time is the freezer. The first time did 24 hours. After that I left the next extraction in for 3 days in the freezer and made no difference. It comes out pure white with no yellow just a very small yield. I was told it was because of my solvent which is n heptane but that is what I can get and my friend uses the same.
 
So if you have the same bark (assuming "The same" means "from the same batch" and not just "the same type" ) then low yield is for one or more of these reasons (in order of processing, possible causes given):

Not as much DMT salt got from the bark into water solution : Because your bark isn't as powdered as your friend has, or you didn't soak for very long, maybe?

Not as much DMT salt was converted to freebase: Because you used much less lye ( like less than 50% as Noman's already has a very healthy excess ) than your friend? (unlikely)

Not as much DMT freebase is being dissolved into the NPS: This is entirely down to NPS mixing style and time, and, if I were a gambling man, I'd say this was likely the main difference. Try upping the amount of agitation, but not so much as to turn it all into emulsion. Increase action a little after each separation until you see emulsion starting to form, then back off.

Not as much DMT precipitated out of the NPS: This is down to concentration of DMT in the NPS before it goes into the freezer, and how cold it can get in your freezer. Try using less NPS per pull to increase this concentration, at the "expense" of having to do more pulls to get it all out eventually. Also try re-using NPS from previous pulls as that will already have some DMT in it.

Good luck!
 
Would like to get a nice amount as this life is disgusting to me and only when I am is in dmt land that it is worthwhile.
My life is sad, disgusting and a waste. That is my problem not anyone elses. I ain't looking for sympathy or help as I will be leaving this place when the time is right
You sound like you are not in the best state of mind, and end your sentence with a somewhat vague statement that you are planning to at sometime end your life. I truly hope that this is not the case and that I interpreted your message wrong.
Having said this, it might be a good idea to not use dmt as it might not benefit you when you’re in this state of mind. Dmt can be a beautiful thing but may also exacerbate mental health issues.
I hope you don’t mind me sharing my thoughts on your remarks, it comes from a good heart and I wish you well.

With tips from the previous responders you should be able to get a better yield.

Take care
 
You sound like you are not in the best state of mind, and end your sentence with a somewhat vague statement that you are planning to at sometime end your life. I truly hope that this is not the case and that I interpreted your message wrong.
Having said this, it might be a good idea to not use dmt as it might not benefit you when you’re in this state of mind. Dmt can be a beautiful thing but may also exacerbate mental health issues.
I hope you don’t mind me sharing my thoughts on your remarks, it comes from a good heart and I wish you well.

With tips from the previous responders you should be able to get a better yield.

Take care
You didn't interpret wrong. I will be leaving on my own accord.
 
You didn't interpret wrong. I will be leaving on my own accord.
Understandable but sad considering how precious life is... you only have one. Everyone has different circumstances and if you are able to complain you are able to change some small aspect. Hopefully you find a reason to live even if only to find your next trip. Cancer or other debilitating ailments I understand completely and to each their own. I do suggest before making a permanent decision is traveling a little or even just diving deeper into something you enjoy whatever that is. Growing plants has helped many and being more in touch with nature. Just a suggestion...


Does your friend use the same starting material as you? I yield .3g per 100g of starting bark but I only have access to outer root bark which is low yielding. 1g is quite a lot of material IMO but your method of consumption may be low duration like smoking so I guess can be used quickly. I only take with maoi so my experience is different.

Reread your post... Maybe you are using too much solvent? Do a back salt with vinegar so your NPS is depleted. Separate the vinegar and add your base again. This time only use HALF OR LESS NPS to pull saving your vinegar. This time your solvent will be more saturated and should freeze precipitate better. I sometimes have issues of using too much solvent which will retain the alkaloid.
 
I don't want help for leaving this world. Life is very unpleasant for me and am fine with leaving. Have made my mind up years ago. Just waiting for the right time and funds so my wife is comfortable and my kids are older. I don't want help from anyone or people trying to persuade me. It will happen when the time is right. Say what you want or call me names. I just wanted to know how to make my yields better, not advice on life.
 
Your yields will improve when your attitude to life and regard for the people around you improves.

Just have a think about that.

PS - have a look into harmala alkaloids.
Yields have nothing to do with attitude. Lots of evil people make dmt and even sell it. Life choices have nothing to do with yields. I wants to leave has nothing to do with others. It is a trick no one cares, they just want the title of saving someone.
 
So if you have the same bark (assuming "The same" means "from the same batch" and not just "the same type" ) then low yield is for one or more of these reasons (in order of processing, possible causes given):

Not as much DMT salt got from the bark into water solution : Because your bark isn't as powdered as your friend has, or you didn't soak for very long, maybe?

Not as much DMT salt was converted to freebase: Because you used much less lye ( like less than 50% as Noman's already has a very healthy excess ) than your friend? (unlikely)

Not as much DMT freebase is being dissolved into the NPS: This is entirely down to NPS mixing style and time, and, if I were a gambling man, I'd say this was likely the main difference. Try upping the amount of agitation, but not so much as to turn it all into emulsion. Increase action a little after each separation until you see emulsion starting to form, then back off.

Not as much DMT precipitated out of the NPS: This is down to concentration of DMT in the NPS before it goes into the freezer, and how cold it can get in your freezer. Try using less NPS per pull to increase this concentration, at the "expense" of having to do more pulls to get it all out eventually. Also try re-using NPS from previous pulls as that will already have some DMT in it.

Good luck!
Not as much DMT salt was converted to freebase: Because you used much less lye ( like less than 50% as Noman's already has a very healthy excess ) than your friend? (unlikely) I don't understand this comment. ( sorry Im not bright) are you saying use more lye?
 
Yields have nothing to do with attitude. Lots of evil people make dmt and even sell it. Life choices have nothing to do with yields. I wants to leave has nothing to do with others. It is a trick no one cares, they just want the title of saving someone.
Well, it seems clear to me that your troubled mental state must be impacting your ability to follow the optimal extraction protocol, so it has everything to do with it. That doesn't mean you're evil does it? It means you're somehow unfocussed, which has nothing to do with your motivations. The fact that these "evil" people may be extracting DMT for commercial gain is neither here nor there - despite it being something which, here at the Nexus, we absolutely do not condone - it means that they are operating with focussed intent, thereby guiding them towards their envisaged success.

It also strikes me that if you really didn't want help concerning your suicidal ideation, you perhaps wouldn't be dropping subtle hints on an internet forum and then whining about it when people pick up on it. It just gives me the feeling that you're scared to ask for help. I can understand how social structures and role models may make it difficult and possibly even embarrassing to admit to some kind of "weakness" - not to mention that healthcare can be very expensive in some parts of the world, but look, nobody's impressed by macho posturing around here, so just chill out bit.

You've got a resource created and maintained by real, genuine people here who form a caring community - as best we can, over the internet - where we do actually look after our members when in genuine need. Open your eyes to the gratitude shown here. Find some inspiration. Then go and extract the living hell out of that bark! :)

Take it from me, as someone who's been to a lot dark stuff, it's totally relatable that sympathy will be the last thing that you want. That's not what we're offering. None of us wants the role of "saviour" (after all, look what happened to the last one!) We would prefer the world to be a better place, and that extends to stretching out a hand to lift up those who are struggling in whatever way. Yeah, how self-indulgent of us to want to shut up Joe Misery over here from killing our buzz, by showing him a nice time :P

Take it or leave it, these are just the random thoughts of some goofball on the internet.

Are you escaping from a religious upbringing, by any chance?
 
Do you think dream weavers stb tek would yield more?
One STB tek being very much like another, I can only advise that you study the essential principles of extraction in order to better grasp how you can optimise the process for your particular situation. Here is a good outline:
These two STB's are said to be very good by most who use them:
And there's a full breakdown of STB teks on the wiki:
 
Not as much DMT salt was converted to freebase: Because you used much less lye ( like less than 50% as Noman's already has a very healthy excess ) than your friend? (unlikely) I don't understand this comment. ( sorry Im not bright) are you saying use more lye?
I'm saying that *if* you used much less lye than your high yielding friend, then adding more might help.

But the amount given in that tek is a very healthy excess, so you'd have to have drastically under done it for this to be the problem, so it seems unlikely to me that this is the issue.
 
Not as much DMT salt was converted to freebase: Because you used much less lye ( like less than 50% as Noman's already has a very healthy excess ) than your friend? (unlikely) I don't understand this comment. ( sorry Im not bright) are you saying use more lye?
I used 100 grams or powdered bark and 100 grams of Lye like the tek called for
I'm saying that *if* you used much less lye than your high yielding friend, then adding more might help.

But the amount given in that tek is a very healthy excess, so you'd have to have drastically under done it for this to be the problem, so it seems unlikely to me that this is the issue.
Thank you
 
Well, it seems clear to me that your troubled mental state must be impacting your ability to follow the optimal extraction protocol, so it has everything to do with it. That doesn't mean you're evil does it? It means you're somehow unfocussed, which has nothing to do with your motivations. The fact that these "evil" people may be extracting DMT for commercial gain is neither here nor there - despite it being something which, here at the Nexus, we absolutely do not condone - it means that they are operating with focussed intent, thereby guiding them towards their envisaged success.

It also strikes me that if you really didn't want help concerning your suicidal ideation, you perhaps wouldn't be dropping subtle hints on an internet forum and then whining about it when people pick up on it. It just gives me the feeling that you're scared to ask for help. I can understand how social structures and role models may make it difficult and possibly even embarrassing to admit to some kind of "weakness" - not to mention that healthcare can be very expensive in some parts of the world, but look, nobody's impressed by macho posturing around here, so just chill out bit.

You've got a resource created and maintained by real, genuine people here who form a caring community - as best we can, over the internet - where we do actually look after our members when in genuine need. Open your eyes to the gratitude shown here. Find some inspiration. Then go and extract the living hell out of that bark! :)

Take it from me, as someone who's been to a lot dark stuff, it's totally relatable that sympathy will be the last thing that you want. That's not what we're offering. None of us wants the role of "saviour" (after all, look what happened to the last one!) We would prefer the world to be a better place, and that extends to stretching out a hand to lift up those who are struggling in whatever way. Yeah, how self-indulgent of us to want to shut up Joe Misery over here from killing our buzz, by showing him a nice time :p

Take it or leave it, these are just the random thoughts of some goofball on the internet.

Are you escaping from a religious upbringing, by any chance?
My life has nothing to do with anyone. I just wanted to know why and what will get me a better yeil
Well, it seems clear to me that your troubled mental state must be impacting your ability to follow the optimal extraction protocol, so it has everything to do with it. That doesn't mean you're evil does it? It means you're somehow unfocussed, which has nothing to do with your motivations. The fact that these "evil" people may be extracting DMT for commercial gain is neither here nor there - despite it being something which, here at the Nexus, we absolutely do not condone - it means that they are operating with focussed intent, thereby guiding them towards their envisaged success.

It also strikes me that if you really didn't want help concerning your suicidal ideation, you perhaps wouldn't be dropping subtle hints on an internet forum and then whining about it when people pick up on it. It just gives me the feeling that you're scared to ask for help. I can understand how social structures and role models may make it difficult and possibly even embarrassing to admit to some kind of "weakness" - not to mention that healthcare can be very expensive in some parts of the world, but look, nobody's impressed by macho posturing around here, so just chill out bit.

You've got a resource created and maintained by real, genuine people here who form a caring community - as best we can, over the internet - where we do actually look after our members when in genuine need. Open your eyes to the gratitude shown here. Find some inspiration. Then go and extract the living hell out of that bark! :)

Take it from me, as someone who's been to a lot dark stuff, it's totally relatable that sympathy will be the last thing that you want. That's not what we're offering. None of us wants the role of "saviour" (after all, look what happened to the last one!) We would prefer the world to be a better place, and that extends to stretching out a hand to lift up those who are struggling in whatever way. Yeah, how self-indulgent of us to want to shut up Joe Misery over here from killing our buzz, by showing him a nice time :p

Take it or leave it, these are just the random thoughts of some goofball on the internet.

Are you escaping from a religious upbringing, by any chance?
My life is my own. Did not ask for help on life, I asked for help on yields.
 
My life has nothing to do with anyone. I just wanted to know why and what will get me a better yeil

My life is my own. Did not ask for help on life, I asked for help on yields.
Yes, and I'm pointing out that you're mistaken in separating the two.

As above, so below.
 
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