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Non toxic food safe extraction of mescaline using d-limonene (orange oil)

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SWIM also had success, yileds were also low, about %0.8, but it was his first try and he did make mistakes. The water that came through with the first limo pull surely casued problems, he will lower the amount to below 300ml next time. He tested a small ball a few days ago and it was a very enjoyable expeerience lasting a good 10 hours then home to bed with no ill after effects.

a few questions for 69ron...

Will a lack of water make a huge difference to the tek? it seems to SWIM that less is better than more, also... SWIM experienced precipitates on the first few HCL pulls, he will try using vinegar next time but he wants to know if SWIY still experiences these precipitates? SWIM read this on another forum from 69ron

"Both of them produced precipitates caused by the calcium hydroxide after salting which needed to be filtered out. After filtering out the calcium junk he separated the 5% hydrochloric acid solution from the two solvents."

So does SWIY still get this? does he just filter each pull or has he refined the process to not have this problem. Will a coffee filter be sufficient to filter these out?

all help is appreciated
 
antichode said:
a few questions for 69ron...

Will a lack of water make a huge difference to the tek? it seems to SWIM that less is better than more...
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More water is NOT good. If it’s wet with droplets of water forming, it’s too much water, lower the amount used. No water should come out of it after it’s mixed. If it feels wet to the touch throughout the mix, it has enough water.

antichode said:
SWIM experienced precipitates on the first few HCL pulls, he will try using vinegar next time but he wants to know if SWIY still experiences these precipitates? SWIM read this on another forum from 69ron

"Both of them produced precipitates caused by the calcium hydroxide after salting which needed to be filtered out. After filtering out the calcium junk he separated the 5% hydrochloric acid solution from the two solvents."

So does SWIY still get this? does he just filter each pull or has he refined the process to not have this problem. Will a coffee filter be sufficient to filter these out?

all help is appreciated
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SWIM does not get those precipitates anymore with the current tech. A coffee filter is good enough. It’s possible that some calcium dust and cactus dust is present in the d-limonene after getting it out. You should always filter the d-limonen to get this junk out.
 
LemonScented said:
err better read the ingredients for the pure citrus air freshener before ingestion..
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I couldn't find the correct MSDS for it, but the can says its 100% natural and non-aerosol. So I believe its safe enough to use for this tek. But while the product is clear and does separate from vinegar, the yields were low and I got a lot of orange peel-like residue left over after the evap despite being careful to only pour vinegar into the dish. So although this stuff appears to contain enough limonene to work in a pinch, it is far from ideal.
 
WOW! SWIM is surprised at the number of people saying 300mg is mild and it takes 400 to feel moderate effects. SWIM performed the TEK a couple of months ago and just recently finished his supply. The stuff is POWERFUL at 200mg. It feels like one drank 40 cups of coffee and ate a couple grams of cubensis. At the peak of the experience on 210mg, SWIM thought to himself " I don't know how anyone could take 300mg, it's to stimulating.". Maybe it's the non-mescaline alkaloids that cause such extreme stimulation. It's fairly uncomfortable. SWIM's next project will be pure white Mesc. HCL.
 
Speaking of higher doses, can people/anyone write about there experiences with higher doses.
There is alot of people who seem to report that they have had a great time on low doses and how much it fills you with euphoira and general well being. I can relate to that : )
But not many people have reported about their higher doses....or are people not taking higher doses.
SWIM is looking forward to a high dose mesc. As 69ron states, it can give a deep spiritual journey with clear visions, SWIM just needs to find the time.
But in the mean time it would be nice to read of other peoples high dose experiences???
 
I believe I've had a high dose before, but since it was cactus juice, I have no clue how much I took. The experience was ok, but not great. Wasn't a bad trip by any means, but it just wasn't much fun either. No joy, laughter, smiles. Kind of emotionless actually... think I had a blank look on my face most of the time. Even music wasn't enjoyable. I could only tolerate mellow vibes like Massive Attack. I just couldn't find my groove. It felt like something was missing, but I couldn't figure out what. Visuals were nice however, everything seemed so sharp and shimmering, especially in nature. I went for a walk on a nature trail and it seemed like I could see every blade of grass swaying in the wind. It was very different from the low dose experiences I've had, but again, this was cactus juice, so I didn't know my dose and my stomach complaining the first few hours didn't help. I believe the juice sucked alot of fun from the experience.

My gallon of d-limonene just arrived so I'll be doing another extraction, this time with proper materials. I intend to revisit measured higher doses as time permits and will share my journeys here.
 
Hmm I don't know if that even uploaded, I'm on a Mac right now its acting twitchier than a chimp on acid.

Anywho, if there is a pic there, it shows the results of my first ever extraction, using this tek, on 100g of cactus.

Total yield was 0.98%, which for a first try, I don't think is bad at all. Being peruvian torch, the vast majority is mescaline acetate, a nice clean alkaloid profile.

I now have an accurate scale, and based on the quantity in 100mg, my taster dose can't have been more than 40mg...which I'm surprised was even active...not enough for euphoria really, but strongly stimulating, even at that dose...must be nice pure stuff.

For my next extraction, am going to leave the cactus to soak in the limonene for a longer, 24 hours at least, and I need to figure out a way to better powder the cactus...the coffee grinder did not enjoy the experience last time. Will mix it better this time as well...also have a funnel this time which will help prevent unwanted spillages.
 
guys, what else could swim do to evaporate vinegar (it's impossible to get food dehydrator)
Would temperature higher than 155F destroy mesc acetate?
 
Maybe check Ebay for a heat mat, the kind used for reptiles etc...I evaporate my vinegar pulls in a glass dish on a heat mat, only took a few days, and got some nice crystals out of it.
 
Thanks for that Bancopuma. Not many peeps seem to post any pics of their final product.
I have included a pic of some that my friend showed me.

The one on the lft is the same stuff that I posted a pic of back on page 25. Its dried out a bit and got a bit lighter in colour. The middle and the righ one are from the same extraction. The middle one was from the first vinegar wash and the one on the right is the second pull. This left one formed a much drier layer on the evapourating surface and was alot harder to scape off. SWIM had to use a stanley knife blade as a razor blade was just to flexable.
Anyhow he informed me he managed to get 1.7g from 100g of dried cactus.
 

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nadir said:
guys, what else could swim do to evaporate vinegar (it's impossible to get food dehydrator)
Would temperature higher than 155F destroy mesc acetate?
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I use a fan oven.
Set it to 50 degrees C and place the tray right at the back of the oven in front of the fan with the door slightly ajar.
This still takes a while but its a damn site quicker than waiting for it to all evapourate naturally.
 
I just place a small fan a few inches above my drying dish and leave it on overnight. By the time I get up the next morning its completely dry. I try to avoid heat unless its a rush job.
 
go with a light bulb that gets really hot and put it close but not too close, then get the fan to blow the vinegar fumes away out a window. that works best for SWIM. Don't let the lamp get to close, too much heat destroys potency.
 
SINK[Someone I Never Knew] used a circle style Mr.Coffee food dehydrator set inside a plastic tub, placed the glass pan ontop of the 5 plastic trays that come with the thing.

It seemed to get a little "too" hot, not to hot to touch but almost, did not have a thermometer but how hot is "too hot"?????

The material was still a bit moist and smelled very strongly of "burnt" vinigar when scraped up. it was very dark and sticky

SINK has not tried this yet

What do you guys think??
 
Personally, I'm a bit wary of heat...I mean its probably fine, as long as its not too hot (don't know how hot 'too hot' is), but I don't see it worth the risk. After one has expended time, energy and resources extracting the mescaline, it seems a bit silly risking your yield at the last hurdle wanting to get dry crystals really quickly.

That's just me though, am probably being over cautious, but a heat mat and a fan seem to do the job just fine.
 
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SINK's was much darker than that, almost black with some amber mixed in.

SINK is currently about 2 hours into eating about .1 grams, no effect noticed yet...
 
PHLUX & Soulman

Your stuff looks beautiful!!!

AMOR_ you said your stuff was very dark, almost black?

You dry it in an oven?

Well cross your fingers for me...

Thanks 69ron you are a good friend indeed!!!!
 
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