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Non toxic food safe extraction of mescaline using d-limonene (orange oil)

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so SWIM tried this mescaline extract with a buddy last night with some thh and then later some more thh harmaline and dmt fumarate..

SWIM figured he would start low with the mescaline extract and thh seeing as how hes never done it before..and hasnt read all that much regarding this extract and harmalas...so they both took 90mg of mescaline and 90mg of thh in a capsule..effects were felt like a 125mg dose of just the mescaline extract..it was very nice and a perfect warm up for the thh+harmaline+dmt fumarate..they took the pharma about 3 hours late..maybe 2..and the only problem was that SWIM forgot his scale..so he had to eye everything *EEK* he did his best to get the dosage right..and did ok for himself..but his friend usually likes to get more than he can handle than not enough..so SWIM gave him a bit more harmaline, thh and dmt fumarate...

the effects started from that at about 20 minutes after drinking it down with some blueberry juice..it was really not that tasty..SWIM always mixes the harmalas with the dmt..he figures that while the harmalas are causing all sorts of excitement with the maoi's the dmt can slip through like little ninjas...he calls this technique...ninja spice...

but anyway..the rest of the night was extremely nice...with conversations ranging all over the place...and some really good laughs..with some good seriousness as well..

the mescaline extract added a nice warmth and energy to the night..its very friendly with thh and harmaline..and dmt..SWIM will most certainly be trying this again..it was a wonderful combo..SWIMs friend at one point was like...at some parts...it was a bit too many drugs..but SWIM attests that to the fact that he gave his friend a bit more than himself..and he also had to eye it..but his friend can handle it...and SWIM figured he would rather overpower him..than leaving him wanting..

it was a great night..and it looks like THH will be a great way too stretch the mescaline extract out a lot...SWIM figures that with a dose of 200mg THH that you could easily use doses of 100mg and have very powerful results..
 
Jorkest said:
so SWIM tried this mescaline extract with a buddy last night with some thh and then later some more thh harmaline and dmt fumarate..
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So using harmala alkoloids sublingually won't work to potentiate the mescaline?
 
SWIM finally has everything he needs to do this extract. He has the cactus sitting in the d-limo bath right now. What a wonderful tech. SWIM says thanks 69ron. Your incredible, I mean it.
 
coolerf said:
SWIM plans on putting the finished extract in gel-caps, what size would be the best to hold 300mg.
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As I stated earlier in this thread SWIM tested and found that 1 size “0” gel cap can hold 400 mg of the dried vinegar alkaloid extract if tapped down tightly so it will easily hold 300 mg. I hope you know that 300 mg is a really strong dose for some people. 200 mg is generally a more “recreational” dose.
 
SWIM has been enjoying the 125mg dose lately...seeing as how hes just started playing with this material...his days of pushing the envelope right off that bat have passed so hes been sticking to lower doses at first...at 125mg its extremely nice without being too overwhelming to have a normal conversation with somebody at a party..granted a little happier..and a bit stimulated..but just right...SWIM is excited though to push the dose up to 200mg..and possibly after that take maybe 150mg san pedro extract and 150-200mg thh..SWIM doesnt want to waste these alkaloids if he can potentiate them...

SWIM was also wondering..if theobromine might make it kick in faster and stronger? 69ron do you think this would work at all?
 
Jorkest said:
SWIM has been enjoying the 125mg dose lately...seeing as how hes just started playing with this material...his days of pushing the envelope right off that bat have passed so hes been sticking to lower doses at first...at 125mg its extremely nice without being too overwhelming to have a normal conversation with somebody at a party..granted a little happier..and a bit stimulated..but just right...SWIM is excited though to push the dose up to 200mg..and possibly after that take maybe 150mg san pedro extract and 150-200mg thh..SWIM doesnt want to waste these alkaloids if he can potentiate them...

SWIM was also wondering..if theobromine might make it kick in faster and stronger? 69ron do you think this would work at all?
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today i took 125 mgs then 45 mins later i took an additional 100mgs starting to feel it strong

im at +2 hour 45mins however i just had to take 75 mgs demorol for my post-tonsilectomy pains... so ill see how that changes things will probably dull it alot

im brewing some strong black sumatra coffee .... just to keep me up of course 😉
 
SWIM is going to dry his extract in a flat pyrex baking dish. Does he just throw it into the over at 200F? Does he need to leave the door open just a bit?
 
VisualDistortion said:
SWIM is going to dry his extract in a flat pyrex baking dish. Does he just throw it into the over at 200F? Does he need to leave the door open just a bit?
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id say do it at like 140F with the door open 200 is probably to hot

although what i did was just sit the dish on my oil/electric radiator heater and left it on something like ~90-110 that took a day till mostly dry then just sitting room temp a few more days to full dry

but if in a rush i think oven with the door cracked at 140 maybe even some kinda fan blowing on the dish would do the trick
 
Wow, it's amazing to see a non-toxic extraction tek out there. 69ron is a genius!

But onto my noobish question;

Elsewhere I saw mention that the d-Limonene, as it apparantly contains citric acid, would convert the freebase mesc into HCl during the first step, before salting with vinegar, as a result one would be leaving a lot of salted mesc in thier calcium hydroxide solution.
Could this be true, or was the guy talking crap?
 
i dont think there is much..if any citric acid in d-limonene..and with this tek..the yields are soo much better than using any xylene tek..so i dont know how it could be messing with the process..citric acid is usually..from what i understand..is in the fruit..and they extract d-limonene using a steam distillation process..that strips the oils from the peels...and SWIM would think that any citric acid that may be in the peels would get stuck in the water...and d-limonene floats on water..so i THINK that dude wasnt quite informed..or was confusing it with something else

and citric acid would convert the mescaline freebase into mescaline citrate..HCL is hydrochloric acid..which is not citric acid
 
That's hilarious :lol:

Citric acid is not present in orange oil, especially steam distilled orange oil. It's not possible. Citric acid cannot be steam distilled. It's water soluble, not oil soluble, and can't be steam distilled. Even if there were traces, it would be so small as to have no impact at all.
 
Here's something to laugh about that I found on Google:

In the last few years citric acid, also known as orange oil has become a popular method of termite control
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That's totally wrong. Orange oil is NOT citric acid!
 
Citric acid decomposes at 175 C. The boiling point of d-limonene is 176 C. So any d-limonene that is distilled cannot contain citric acid at all.

It is possible for non-distilled pressed d-limonene to have traces of citric acid (about 0.1%).

So at 0.1%, 1000 ml of non-distilled pressed d-limonene would have 1000 mg of citric acid. In this tech the amount of calcium hydroxide used is 25 grams. You'd need many times more than 1000 mg of citric acid to have any impact at all on the extraction.

To form calcium citrate (tribasic calcium citrate) you need three molecules of calcium for every two molecules of citric acid. Citric acid weighs 192.123 and calcium hydroxide weighs only 74.1. So 1000 mg of citric acid could only react with 578.5 mg of calcium hydroxide. So 1000 mg would only react with 2.3% of the calcium hydroxide used in this extraction tech. Therefore it would have absolutely no impact on the extraction.
 
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