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Non toxic food safe extraction of mescaline using d-limonene (orange oil)

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nibpack said:
Would a D-Limonene product with the FDA - GRAS approval be safe to use in this TEK?
It's MSDS says it contains 97% D-Limonene and the other 97% - 100% is unspecified impurities. Would the unspecified impurities be non-toxic
orangey by-products, or something dangerous?
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GRAS is non-toxic. That's food grade, exactly what you want. The other ingredients are from the orange peels and safe. What brand is it?
 
Thanks 69ron, the D-Limonene in question is from a company downunder called Orica.
Unfortunately pickling seems to be a lost art in my country, I suppose pharmaceutical grade Kalkwasser would do though.
 
SWIM got to try some mescaline this weekend. He went on a camping trip with some friends to a beautiful camp ground with some white water rapids and a waterfall. He took around 225mg. No body high to report. Strange, SWIM never got a body high from 2-cb either. Maybe he's resistant in that aspect. But the visuals were very soft and nice. Expecially the closed eye visuals. And the auditory halucinations SWIM had worked in unison with the sound of the river, and made a wonderful symphony.
 
VisualDistortion said:
SWIM got to try some mescaline this weekend. He went on a camping trip with some friends to a beautiful camp ground with some white water rapids and a waterfall. He took around 225mg. No body high to report. Strange, SWIM never got a body high from 2-cb either. Maybe he's resistant in that aspect. But the visuals were very soft and nice. Expecially the closed eye visuals. And the auditory halucinations SWIM had worked in unison with the sound of the river, and made a wonderful symphony.
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thats odd about the no body high iv felt strong body highs from mescaline
cant quite explain it ... alot of energy to it
as i once said to a friend "it feels like my body is a fountain spray positive energy"
 
Noob said:
Why do you need new limonene after each pull? Why can't you just use the same batch of limonene since you're gonna pull the alks out with the vinegar anyway?
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hey guys what about re-distilling the limonene? It's just so expensive... fractional distillation to clean maybe?

Or maybe extracting the no-good stuff back out? fractional distillation seems to make more sense

Jorkest said:
and i guess the reason for using new d-limo is so that you get less impurities
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If you recycled it, if it is a case of accumulating impurities in the final product, wouldn't a few extra washes at the end sort this out?

Or would the limonene be so saturated with shit that it became useless?

I know it isn't ideal to reuse/attempt to recycle solvents, but my financial situation is FAR from ideal.
Has anyone actually tried re-using a batch of limonene?
 
The D-Limonene and releated terpenes apparantly only have a shelf life of 18 months to two years (according to Florida chemical's website) So you would want to use a new batch after that time anyway.
 
Not quite. If stored in a cool dry place away from direct sunlight they last for ages. SWIM's FOAF used 10 years old limonene he found in his lab with satisfying results.
 
SWIM says +1 to this tek. bioassay in the manana.

on another note could it be possible to absorb mesc. transdermally when it is in limonene? SWIM believes that above threshold was felt when an amount was spilled on their hands. (no gloves with the d-limo..., maybe next time)
 
dimitrius_rexus said:
on another note could it be possible to absorb mesc. transdermally when it is in limonene? SWIM believes that above threshold was felt when an amount was spilled on their hands. (no gloves with the d-limo..., maybe next time)
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I posted about that a while back. Would be great if it actually worked. Mind testing this at larger doses and on areas on the body better suited for it?
 
i think SWIM would be very interested. in reality the mesc should be seperated from full range vine-gar alks first and both tried separately but will try some initially with the full range. Very premature postulation that onset will be significantly faster. This is from guessing from the previous experience-accident (spill).

SWIM will do some more research. if anyone has any info (or guesses) about ratios and application areas please post up.
 
Regarding the french press, did you mean that you can mix directly in the french press? Or rather just scoop the mix into it when it's time to separate the limonene?
 
The French press is not really needed. It’s just more convenient. You could mix the ingredients and then pour it through a strainer instead to get all the d-limonene back out. Note that no water ever comes back out of the cactus mix. So it can all be placed over a wire mesh strainer at once. Basically the French press just makes this a little easier to do because the strainer is built in to it’s design. After straining, it should be filtered through coffee filter paper. But really, straining isn't necessary. It can just be decanted right into the filter paper, because the mix is very thick and tends to stay suck in your mixing container.

Either way. SWIM mixes it directly in his glass French press. Swim removes the plunger from the lid. His plunger is all steel, the lid is plastic. If your French press has got plastic parts, be careful not to let the d-limonene touch the plastic. Some plastic is dissolved by d-limonene.

SWIM uses the plunger as a pre-filter. He mixes the water/lime/cactus powder in the French press for about five minute and lets it sit a few hours. And then he pours in the d-limonene, thoroughly mixes it and then puts the plunger in (with the lid removed from the plunger). This way the cactus mix is trapped under the plunger so that when you pour out the d-limonene, there’s no chance that any cactus will fall out. Also you can use the plunger to lightly squeeze out any remaining d-limonene. Be careful not to plunge too hard when using glass.

Note that a polypropylene French press should be ok.
 
Oh so should a revision to this tek be that you should let the cactus/lime/water mix sit for a few hours before adding the limonene? Or will that make much difference?
 
It doesn't matter. SWIM just does it that way because he often has other things to do. SWIM usually does just one pull a day because he's so busy with other things, that’s all.
 
Quick question:

How does one yield 1-5 grams of mescaline acetate from 100 grams of San Pedro if that much San Pedro corresponds to a trip for one person? =confused. 100 grams of San Pedro from most suppliers is ho hum... and very occasionally full blown sweet. ...but still, that's for one person. Am I missing something?
 
I believe the outer skin is used in the mentioned extraction not the entire cacti chips which contain the endocarp. The outer skin is known to have high levels of mescaline 5%, where as the % decreases as one moves inward towards the center of the cacti. Thus one would not obtain this yield from 100g of whole cacti chips.
 
wooooooooooowwwwwww :)

i feel so wonderful....

this morning 75mgs light tan most dry stuck on side of 100mgs 5htp and swallowed with two cups of coffee.... had a slow day at work but the work i got was done quick an efficent as sore as my body was the pain was actully good feeling... very... like stretching on molly.....

lunch time i repeated.... the rest of the day just got better and better no visuals yet mind you.... this stuff is sloooooooowwww in the best way possible ... just had alot of postive energy and a killer phen body high all day

5 hours later i got home and took a final dose of 75 by it self hour later now i feel ammmmaaaaaaZING visuals are just starting and body high is out of this world i am at a lose for words on how to describe it or what to even compare it to besides candyflipping....
the best thing about it ... it doesnt feel fake like the chemical love of molly it feels real like sooo soooo positive

in summery

75mg mescaline acetate (~90% pure was lighter tan dry extract feels stronger to me then the darker)taken with 100mg 5htp and ~200mgs caffeine (sumatra drip brew ... black)

+4 hr additional 75mg (total 150mg) mescaline taken with additional 100mg (total 200mg) 5htp
had a ham sandwich an a coke (~30mg caffeine)

+9 hr additional 75mg (total 225mg) taken alone with a coke (~30mg)


i am losing the ability/desire to type i feel my body dancing while it remains motionless and its wonderful...


[YOUTUBE]


omg i have this playing twice at once with a one min lag..... check that out...... omg amazing

10 sec delay is pretty cool too....
 
psychosisdoses said:
this stuff is sloooooooowwww in the best way possible ... just had alot of postive energy and a killer phen body high all day
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SWIM loves that about it. You take it, you come up, and then you've all the time in the world to do amazing things, if you like. SWIM can't wait for the all day recording sessions on mescaline, and then the night recordings on DMT and THH.
 
amor_fati said:
psychosisdoses said:
this stuff is sloooooooowwww in the best way possible ... just had alot of postive energy and a killer phen body high all day
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SWIM loves that about it. You take it, you come up, and then you've all the time in the world to do amazing things, if you like. SWIM can't wait for the all day recording sessions on mescaline, and then the night recordings on DMT and THH.
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glorious like a roller coaster that goes on for endless miles
surging up up up when you think it will slow it continues

its a beautiful thing
 
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