Noob has some questions????

[timerider]

Hi, I have been on here and many other sites researching DMT for hundreds of hours, but only joined now because after my first extraction I have some questions. I hope some kind people out there can help enlighten me. I decided to use Mimosa Hostalis, (because a good sale was on), and I ended up going with Noman's TEC, DMT for the masses, because it seemed more simple and straight forward then the other TEC's. I have a few questions after doing the process and reading a bunch of other Tec's. One is about the Naptha pull, after agitating the solution 3 of 4 times, is it okay to syphon off the Naptha right away or should I wait a 1/2 hour or more for it to settle after final agitation.
My first extraction I syphoned after about 5 minutes and later read another TEC where the guy waited a 1/2 hour for it to settle before syphoning, in his pictures it showed his Naptha becoming a creamy white color where as mine, both at 5 min and my second extraction 30 min, my Naptha remained almost clear. The second problem I have is that my crystals came out almost an aqua green color, (Pictures to follow), I have heard of clear, yellow, and even red, but what the hell is up with green. Thinking it was impurities I did not 1 but, 2 amonia washes, it took most of the color out but the spice still has a slight green color to it. Finally I would like to know about quantity, in my pictures does the quanity look right, (I don't have a scale yet so I can't weigh it right now). Both batches where made-up with 200 grams of bark each, I don't know whats up with the second batch yet as it is still in the freezer :d . Before anybody asks, I am in Canada and am using Home Hardware Lye, and Coleman Fuel/Naptha, I did the plate test with the Naptha and it left no residue on the plate at all, (my finger squeaked). I am just worried about poisoning myself so I though I would seek some expert advice.

Any help anybody can render would be greatly appreciated :d .

- Pictures in crappy white glass cake pan, crystals as well as unpure scrapings.
- Pictures on black glass coaster and in vial, double ammonia washed spice.

 

[fourthripley]

NOT from personal experience but from consistent reading; Coleman fuel is responsible for your green. Best bet is prob. to redisolve your spice in a cleaner solvent and then wash with acidic solution, re-base that and extract again. Look for Coschi and Lex-tek threads

 

[timerider]

Thanks for the quick reply. Is there an easier way to fix this, could I possibly just add the green crystals to my next batch of bark and lye mixture and then just follow the same tek using ronsonol lighter fluid instead of coleman fuel. Also has anybody out there smoked green DMT, would it hurt you ???
I'm not afraid to admit that I am doing this because it is the only way I can aquire Spice, I am not much of a chemist and am not enjoying the manufacturing part very much. I'm even more concerned because I have a second batch in the freezer right now, and I used Coleman Fuel on that as well. I'm hoping 400grams of bark don't go down the crapper because I'm to stupid to figure out how to fix the spice.

Thanks for your time

 

[Noman]

fourthripley is right, it's the Coleman fuel - again not from experience, but have heard of green spice several times and it's always extracted with Coleman fuel.
He's right about cleaning it up too, and so are you.
Evap all of your extract thoroughly and add it to your next batch and extract with VM+P naptha.
Ronsonal will still give you a shitty product.
Fuels have all kinds of weird stuff in them that will fuck with you.
They're just meant to burn, not be clean.

 

[timerider]

Hi, thanks again for all the help guys. I was just on my way out to get some ronsonol when I checked the board again and found this. OK does anybody have any recommendations for a easy to aquire, reletivly safe, solvent that I can still use with nomans tech. i am up in Canada and am having trouble finding some stuff, and the ones I can get seem to be inappropriate. What brands can I get up here that have clean/pure VM+P naptha. I would have no problem at all running another batch if at the end I am left with 3 batches worth of clean happy crystals. I am anxious to take my first spice journey, yet keep running into roadblocks. Once again, I thank all for their help, I really, honestly, appreciate it. These techs are a little overwhelming when you first start doing this.

 

[timerider]

Hi again, well I was out all day looking again, at paint shops, hardware stores etc, and still no luck. Since I know nothing about chemistry is there another type of solvent, (not naptha), that I can use with Nomans Tek that would achieve the same results, but that is more available and doesn't have additives. I am getting a little frustrated here that this one component is holding me up, when from reading other posts from people in the U.S. it sounds like VM-P Naptha is available at every corner store. Also I think most of the Teks should be edited to remove Coleman Fuel and Rosonol Lighter fluids as ingredients as I would hate for someone else to make my mistake. Any help anyone could render would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

 

[Tripples]

http://www.agwoodcare.co.uk/gbu0-prodshow/fiddes_naptha_thinners.html

Naptha in the UK

 

[timerider]

Hi, thanks for the reply Tripples, but I am actually located in Canada not the U.K., thanks for trying though. I noticed a thread with a list of good places to get root bark etc. I wish there was also a list of places to get solvents and lye etc, I am thinking as time goes by the supplies are only going to get harder to find.

 

[acolon_5]

Hi, thanks for the reply Tripples, but I am actually located in Canada not the U.K., thanks for trying though. I noticed a thread with a list of good places to get root bark etc. I wish there was also a list of places to get solvents and lye etc, I am thinking as time goes by the supplies are only going to get harder to find.

Maybe if you can give us a list of solvents you CAN find we will be able to tell you which ones are safe and effective to use... Some solvents go by many different names so you might have already looked over what you need.

 

[timerider]

Hi, unfortunatly I only began writing down stuff at the last store (Home Depot), two busy reading labels looking for Naptha. The two I saw there were Methyl Hydrate and Acetone. I was just about to say screw it and run down to Canadian Tire and pick up some Rosonol lighter fluid, at least I could finally try some spice. I know in Nomans previous message he said it made shitty product, does anybody have much experience using Rosonol and does it make impure spice. Would it be good enough to smoke? I have seen it listed as an ingredient in lot's of techs, more than I've seen listing Coleman Fuel. I apologize for my continuous questions. Thanks

 

[DMTime]

 

[timerider]

Hi, thanks for all the help everybody. I have decided to make a third batch using Rosonol Lighter Fluid and leave my Green Shamrock Crystals in the freezer for now. In about a week my wife is going down to the States with her sister for a clothes shopping excursion and I have asked her to pick me up a couple of jugs of Naptha VM&P while they are down there. I figure I can try some spice now and if it turns out bad I can just add it to my green crystals later and run another batch using the Naptha to clean everything up. I'll post back later and let everybody know how the Rosonol turned out. Thanks again to all that tried to help me out.

 

[DMTime]

:roll: naphtha------->

 

[DMTime]

:shock:

(contains some parafin wax)

 

[gwynplaine]

I am in Canada and am using Home Hardware Lye,

SWIM tried getting lye at a Home Hardware in BC (their own brand) and checked with the manager - told me it was 95% to 100% NaOH. Is that okay for a STB???