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ckld said:
If you use same quantity of naphtha in every pull that mean's that you end up with 500ml of naptha-DMT solution for 100gr of MHRB ready to get into the freezer (seems bit too much too me.Is it?).
I was confused about the coffee filter because of: How can the naphtha solution look so clean when poured in the precipitation container after stirring with the whole mixture of rout bark, vinegar and lime? Sorry but I can't imagine gettinig clean crystals out of this mess. Do you let the mixture precipitate for a while after stirring or what?

I use 50ml of naptha for my pulls (75 ml for the first). That way I end up with 225 for pulls 1-4 and an additional 50 ml for the last 5th pull for a total of 275ml. I have evapped to half once, but have never found it necessary - in fact (although there were other factors), the 1 time I did evap half, crystals started forming and even after the freeze precip they were all BRIGHT yellow... The other variables surely contributed, but this was the first time I have not gleaned pure white crystals...

BTW, the post-pull naptha often looks a little yellowish, but can also appear pretty clear. Neither is an indication that the goodies are or are not there.

JBArk
 
ckld said:
4-5 pulls take about a week. How do you preserve the bark,lime,vinegar mix? Does the few naptha left from the privious pour out effect the mix?

A week? no, an afternoon... I leave the 5th one an extra day, but if you mixed properly and sufficiently the emulsion should settle into 2 distinct layers in from about 10 minutes to no more than an hour. If an emulsion stays (bubbles and/or no distinct line between NPS layer and basic aqueous solution you either mixed too vigorously or your solution isn't basic enough (or both).

Decant, repeat x 3, then freeze precip while the last naptha pull sits overnight, or for a full day (I mix it 4-5 times just to be sure it has circulated).

Most of your spice will migrate to the NPS in the first 2-3 pulls, even with only a few minutes of careful mixing (i turn my mason jars end over end slowly 100 times per pull).

Cheers,

JBArk

EDIT: I use a basic A/B, and have used a standard STB also - I am assuming this should work for your tek also...)
 
Added washing soda (large clear crystal chunks) to water as I am at the step 6 - Fumarates conversion on BLAB.
About one dl of SC dissolved in one dl of water. I put the glass jar in warm place to speed up dissolving.
After all was dissolved , I left the jar in cooler place for an hour and the SC crystallized again in the water.

As I don't know too much about chemistry , this left me with question - How do we know SC does not crystallize in the fridge after adding the SC-water to fumarate-water?

Should water be cold, warm or hot if used to wash the freebase?

Thank's!
 
Thats why you shouldnt add sodium carbonate to the dmt fumarate water, you first make a dilute solution and add a bit of that to the dmt fumarate solution till it stops cloudying. This will be enough to freebase/precipitate the dmt freebase (which isnt soluble in basic water, hence why it crystalizes), but it wont be enough to precipitate any sodium carbonate (because sodium carbonate is reasonably soluble in water even at fridge temperatures).

In any case you could wash your dmt freebase with dilute sodium carb solution, this would dissolve the sodium carb excess but should not dissolve the dmt freebase.

Just dont throw anything away till you're happy with your results :)
 
I'll be conducting my first A/B tek (q21q21's Fluffy White Funfest) and I have some questions. What is the consistency in this picture from the tek? I assume it's consistency #1, but I would like verification. I want to wait a whole 24 hours to proceed with the first pull in order to get 80-90% of the spice. So, should I create consistency #1 after the 24 hours or before? I ask this because I assume that it would become bone-dry after 24 hours. Also, should I saran wrap the bowl during the 24-hour wait? And will several pulls be necessary if I do the 24-hour wait? Could I use a glass syringe for the pulls instead of tilting the bowl to pour the naphtha ? Thank you, I'd appreciate the help.
 
Hello to everyone
I found alot of helpfull information on this forum.Now I decided to join in hope you could help me.I made extraction with nomans tek the yeild was good and everything what I was wondering I found very hard scraping product from collection jar at the end would be possible that next time I freze solution in large glass pan so it would be easier to collect instead in collection jars or that would be imposible and crystallization wouldnt occure?

I used 110g of bark and 0.4ml naptha per g of root
 
Yes its possible, but how will you close it? You dont want your freezer stinking of solvent, specially if you plan to have food there in the future.

Another option is to use a small amount of hot naphtha to redissolve the crystals after freezing and letting it evaporate in a flat glass pan. The slower it evaps the better. Freeze precipitation will have already cleaned it up nicely, and like this youll have nice clean crystals that are easy to scrape.
 
endlessness said:
Yes its possible, but how will you close it? You dont want your freezer stinking of solvent, specially if you plan to have food there in the future.

Another option is to use a small amount of hot naphtha to redissolve the crystals after freezing and letting it evaporate in a flat glass pan. The slower it evaps the better. Freeze precipitation will have already cleaned it up nicely, and like this youll have nice clean crystals that are easy to scrape.

With few layers of plastic foil or something or I will buy especially for this something appropriate.I though that it wouldn freeze enough if all was in one large pan

And yes at the begining once I basify the solution could I filter out root is that possible or there is still some of it in the root,happened once that it stoppered the separatory funnel and with next pulls I just left some residue in the jar before separating.ž

And I was thinking the best way to mix jars would be magnetic stirrer,agree?

Would be a bigger yeild if I used heptane or hexane for extraction since dmt is better soluble in?
 
Hey guys, I need help for collecting Mimosa Hostilis root barks.

First of all, how do i identify the tree? I think i got that tree grown in the garden, i check alot of pic on internet and it sure looks the same (the leave close at night too), located in Australia. Any kind of mimosa hostilis work? I even got a bigger mimosa look liked tree but the leaf is much much bigger, the leaf also sleeps at night.

secondly, how do I collect the root barks? I mean, do i have to dry it or oven it? or i can use the fresh inner=root barks. and only the inner bark contain? and just discard everything else?

looking forward for answers, thx
 
I think it's rather unlikely the tree in your backyard is mimosa hostilis. There are many mimosa trees. Most of them do not contain DMT.

Since you are in austrailia, you would have better luck hunting certain acacia species. Check out the thread "Trying to improve acacia information" for more info on which ones to look for.

I'm pretty sure you can just strip a bit of bark from the tree (not too much, don't want to hurt it.)
 
thanx!
I have up on Acacias because they are too many of them and all look alike, n i have no idea how to identify them without the flower, but flower season is not up yet.

When u say strip it from the tree, u mean, dig a hole, find the root, get rid of the outer bark, and start collect the inner bark when the root is attached to the tree? do u know where i can have more info regards to collecting root bark. Thank for all ur info hey, i'll start looking in acacia's breed.

ps. the root bark has to be dried? or fresh will work as well?
 
my name is marc and i am determined to eventually extract dmt. i would like the help or any person experienced in extracting dmt who has had a full blown dmt trip. Here is my problem:

i use a plastic canadian tire turkey baster, a 4L hot pepper jar shredded mimosa, lye and a wooden spoon to stir the lye in order to dissolve it and so that the granules don't stick together and become rock hard in the water (problem is that the spoon gets eaten away at when i stir). i do 4 pulls turning the jar 4 times each and then i turkey baste pull the vm and p into a mason jar and then into a ceramic tray with the same turkey baster (i use both the mason jar and the ceramic tray in order to leave behind all the black stuff) i freeze precipitate in a freezer without a lid on the tray and then pour off all the naptha after 24 hours leaving all the white crystals stuck to the bottom of the tray/dish. then i turn the dish over and put it into the freezer upside down to let any left over naptha fall out of the dish. after keeping the dish in the freezer for half an hour it turn it right side up and leave it in the fridge for 24 hours and then what i get is...

way too many crystals and its not quite dmt though some hallucinogenic effects.

note to reader: i don't sanitize the containers i use very well and would like to know if this is what is causing my problems.
ALSO, MY SPICE ENDS UP WITH FROST ON IT IN SOME SPOTS AND I DON'T LIKE THAT ONE BIT!
 
I found answers on forum I would just like to know with STB once I basify the solution could I filter out root is that possible or there is still some of it in the root because it stoppered the separatory funnel?
 
uhapšen said:
And I was thinking the best way to mix jars would be magnetic stirrer,agree?

Would be a bigger yeild if I used heptane or hexane for extraction since dmt is better soluble in?

Yeah magnetic stirrer is best way to mix but simple stirring works fine. Heptane or hexane are equivalent to naphtha, all are pretty selective to dmt. For bigger yield, either warm up the later pulls and mix them up very thoroughly for long (and keep pulling as long as theres still dmt coming), or also look into extracting with limonene/xylene.
 
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