official extraction help thread

[psilocybin]

Any questions or problems you may run into during an extraction can be asked to get other members input in this thread.

 

[a.lurker]

Im following DOS Harmala Tek and Ive reached this step-

an aditional clean up can be preformed if you want clean acetate salts for smoking or if you want clean freebase. after the evap by taking the thick yellow/red syrup/crystals (no not harmaline red...) and re basing them followed by 3 washes with a weak sodium carbonate (ph5) solution. you can then dissolve the freebase in anhydrous acetone to remove the leftover NaCO3 salt and lye. for the clean acetate salts you would suspend in alcohol again and add vinegar dropwise untill a semi clear solution was acheaved, filter and rex from a hot anhydrous alcohol.

Right now I have freebase harmaloids that have some Na2CO3 and salt contams in it
I want clean acetate salts.

2 Questions-

1. After I dissolve the freebase in anhydrous acetone, how do I go onto the next step? Do I filter the acetone alkaloid mixture and then let it evaporate or freeze precipitate? It says next to suspend the in alcohol again so I'm assuming I will be suspending freebase crystals.

2. After I suspend the cleaned freebase crystals (I'm assuming once again) in alcohol, and add vinegar dropwise and then filter, how would I re-x with anhydrous alcohol? I'm not understanding how to go from harmala acetate tincture suspended in alcohol, to a product that could be re-x'd.

Thank you for enlightening me on this. I'm sure my lack of knowledge in chemistry is pretty obvious.

 

[Dn588]

Hi all

about a week ago I started my second extraction using 500g MHRB, the tech I used is Q2121's food grade tech(fluffy white funfest). from my first pull after 24h I got 0.75g, second pull after 96h yielded 0.35g and third pull 2 days later yielded 0.5g. From what i've read MHRB is supposed to contain 0.5-2.5% spice? If that's the case I don't seem to be doing to well. I bought the bark from the well known source in the Netherlands could it be bad quality? My first extraction I used 100g and just multiplied everything by 5 for the second attempt, is there something i'm missing which should be changed when using a larger quantity? I also thought about using xilene or d-limonene for the next attempt as then I would be getting the mystery alcaloid(jungle spice) as well, should that increase the yield much?
Thanks in advance.

 

[Azerdion]

Dn588

It is not allowed to mention your source

 

[Dn588]

Sorry, forgot about that... hope it's ok now?

 

[dimitrii]

Dn588,

.5% is a pretty good yield. If you want to try to pull more, you'll probably be pulling less dmt and more of the jungle spice. You can pull additional product out by using a different solvent such as xylene, or heating the mixture via hot water bath before pulling again with naptha

 

[dimitrii]

Help with STB extraction: Dark naptha pull

Hey guys, SIWM is fairly experienced, and is currently running an STB extraction using 1kg mhrb, 5gal water, 1.5kg NaOH. On his first pull, the mimosa mud was still hot from dumping in the lye, and the naptha pulled off a murky purple/red color. After letting it sit for a day, the murkiness settled to the bottom, and the naptha was pulled off of the top, resulting in a clear purple/red solution. Assuming some extra plant materials were pulled out, what can be done from here to separate out the fluffy white goodness from the plant crap?

Thanks in advance

 

[xx1182]

I followed this(Cybs' Hybrid ATB 'Salt' Tek) tek, but when i pull the naptha into the glass it doesn't look white, but yellow(and also smells like naptha), is this ok?

Now is in the freezer waiting for tomorrow

 

[Kash]

I followed this(Cybs' Hybrid ATB 'Salt' Tek) tek, but when i pull the naptha into the glass it doesn't look white, but yellow(and also smells like naptha), is this ok?

Now is in the freezer waiting for tomorrow

If you did some reading, you would see that yellow naptha is normal in many circumstances.:thumb_up:

 

[Tamandua]

I won't recommend the thing i bought.. It isn't airtight so when you suck the liquid up, it flows right out again

I was having this same problem when using seringes, bought this stuff (pipette pump + pipette) yesterday and it works fine. It seems to be made in germany so I guess you should be able to find it at stores too.

 

[xx1182]

Ok, here the deal:
I've done the Cybs tek, but
i have found something in the right end corner, what is that?

Also, when i scraped, i found some "Redish" sticky cristals, are those right?

 

[Flippo]

Help with STB extraction: Dark naptha pull

Hey guys, SIWM is fairly experienced, and is currently running an STB extraction using 1kg mhrb, 5gal water, 1.5kg NaOH. On his first pull, the mimosa mud was still hot from dumping in the lye, and the naptha pulled off a murky purple/red color. After letting it sit for a day, the murkiness settled to the bottom, and the naptha was pulled off of the top, resulting in a clear purple/red solution. Assuming some extra plant materials were pulled out, what can be done from here to separate out the fluffy white goodness from the plant crap?

Thanks in advance

In the FAQ section your question is answered. See 'My Solvent is Brown/Dark, what to do ?'

 

[Flippo]

I won't recommend the thing i bought.. It isn't airtight so when you suck the liquid up, it flows right out again

I was having this same problem when using seringes, bought this stuff (pipette pump + pipette) yesterday and it works fine. It seems to be made in germany so I guess you should be able to find it at stores too.

I'm probably going to buy a volume pipette like This one for my next extraction. They are made of glass and you can get them up to 100ml. We used them at chemistry class at high school. You have to suck the liquid up the pipette. You can work really accurate with these things.

 

[Spooky]

What up guys. I have a question on Cybs tek, Step 8 says to pour out naptha into a jar or recycle it. Would fresh naptha be a better option for the next pull or will the recycled naptha do the same job? Thanks in advance.

 

[Flippo]

In the DMT Handbook there is a section about crystal growing. Here is suggested to put a coaster on the glass your about to grow the crystals in, put it in a cupboard and slowly let the solvent evaporate so nice big crystals are formed. This is exactly what SWIM did because SWIM thinks the crystals look really beautiful. Now after letting a few glasses slowly evaporate in his kitchen and hallway, he reads about the Naphtha fumes, and how you should NOT let this evaporate inside, and you should not breath this fumes. Hmm.. wouldn't have hurt to read this a bit earlier. Next time probably just keep it to freeze-precipitation.

 

[Blast-Off]

SWIM has read that fresh naphtha is preferred for a more pure product

 

[treeshakers]

In the DMT Handbook there is a section about crystal growing. Here is suggested to put a coaster on the glass your about to grow the crystals in, put it in a cupboard and slowly let the solvent evaporate so nice big crystals are formed. This is exactly what SWIM did because SWIM thinks the crystals look really beautiful. Now after letting a few glasses slowly evaporate in his kitchen and hallway, he reads about the Naphtha fumes, and how you should NOT let this evaporate inside, and you should not breath this fumes. Hmm.. wouldn't have hurt to read this a bit earlier. Next time probably just keep it to freeze-precipitation.

what do you mean by coaster?

 

[wall-iko]

Hello, I'm preparing for my first extraction (another noob)
I'm really short on supplies

#1
i ordered:
.100 g MHRB (powdered) from gaiana
.2 lb Sodium Hydroxide Food Grade Red Hot Devil Lye Caustic Soda Beads (amazon)
.Ph 1-14 Test Paper (amazon)

The big question is: can i use Zippo lighter fluid as non polar solvent? (naphta is a major problem to get my hands on)

I have no chemistry skills but still I understand the idea of what's going on by changing ph and moving DMT from one layer to another, BUT there's one point in Cyb's tek where he is salting the mix, what does the salt do?

and still i'm not shore which tek to do...


#2
I'm also waiting for 100 HBWR seeds. I have absolutely no chance of extracting LSA with all those solvents. Does anyone know any other ways?
Eating this seeds was a hard thing last time didn't have any visuals and had such nausea that i didn't wanted to live any more

 

[kyuss]

i have been told that zippo fluid is good to use as naphtha.
the salt helps make the dmt go into the naphtha.. something to do with ionic strength

and for morning glories, search through wiki.dmt-nexus.me for some teks, one of them requires only ISO which is farily easy to get. and heres a water extraction

i think someone else may post that can help you further

 

[wall-iko]

#1 (DMT)
I do not remember exact posts but I'v seen some saying that Zippo fluid is ok and some saying that Zippo fluid has some oils that make crystallization process harder with lower amounts of product (and this is bad for me, I'll only have 100 g of MHRB powder).

#2 (LSA)
the link with tek shows a easy extraction method with peper mint (alcohol). is it ok to use psychedelics (LSA) with alcohol?
any suggestion how to neutralise nauseia?
do I need to take some MAOI-s to have a descent trip? if yes than which one is the easiest one to find?

P.S.
my goal is not to have a party, I am trying to break through conciseness and find my inner world and the "hiperspace"
I quit drinking coffee, eating meet, garlic and onions.
any other suggestions?

 

[treeshakers]

could i get some help? i have 33% hcl. i want to begin acid washing 500g ACRB. how much water should i be using for each wash and how much HCL?

i'm getting PH strips soon but does anyone have the numbers?

also, i don't understand that dilution equation C1V1 = C2V2 lol sorry

also bonus question: could sea salt be used for salting as per cybs tek