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DreaMTripper
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It does seem paradoxical yeah and beyond me maybe someone with advanced knowledge can answer it as FASA is a multiple proven method.
slugware
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Hello, kind travellers
I will be making my first extraction attempt using Cyb's hybrid Salt Tek very soon
I've read the document and the associated threads quite a few times, but i still have a few things that are not fully clear to me, so just want to ask and confirm if im wrong
Ill be doing a 50 gr of powdered MHRB, as proposed in the tek, so as if i mess things up, less material will be lost.
i'm gonna use Acetic Acid for the acid soak ( will get a picture in my extraction diary as soon as i get everything of the materials on the list) - from a chemical supply store - It's described as Acetic Acid Min. 95 %. For basification i am going to use lye crystals. For the non-polar solvent, i 've got some Zippo Lighter Fluid.
1. First thing's first. The thing i am not aware of is NPS pulls. Reading through and through Cyb's tek .pdf, i am not sure how many times i add/ mix/ wait to separate a 50 ml NPS (for that ~750 ml mix in the jar).
in Step Seven: Pulling :
Repeat Steps Six and Seven four more times, giving five pulls in total. (more pulls if you feel that you want to)
so does that mean that i do this 4 times (4 X 50ml NPS), mixing/letting separate FOUR times for every 50 ml of NPS i add
If so, this means i use about 200-250 ml NPS for 4-5 Pulls ? Just want to make sure of that?
How much time to wait for different pulls is recommended?
I already did a simple STB to a batch of MHRB that turned out to be trunk bark, but i added NPS only once - 50ml , mix, shake, wait to separate - repeat this 5 times, waited for the first separation an hour, and for the next four about 15-20 minutes each)? I got only two little yellow bunks of goo, but wasn't surprised, having in mind it's trunk bark.
This time i want to make everything by the letter, so as to get better results
2) I plan to get a pH paper to check levels. I know it's not a MUST, but i prefer to use it. Another thing i am not sure about :
2.1 When acidifying, pH must reach about 3,5 ? Correct me if i'm wrong
2.2 When basifying, pH must reach 13,5 - 14? Correct me if i'm wrong
Best Regards!
I will be making my first extraction attempt using Cyb's hybrid Salt Tek very soon
I've read the document and the associated threads quite a few times, but i still have a few things that are not fully clear to me, so just want to ask and confirm if im wrong
Ill be doing a 50 gr of powdered MHRB, as proposed in the tek, so as if i mess things up, less material will be lost.
i'm gonna use Acetic Acid for the acid soak ( will get a picture in my extraction diary as soon as i get everything of the materials on the list) - from a chemical supply store - It's described as Acetic Acid Min. 95 %. For basification i am going to use lye crystals. For the non-polar solvent, i 've got some Zippo Lighter Fluid.
1. First thing's first. The thing i am not aware of is NPS pulls. Reading through and through Cyb's tek .pdf, i am not sure how many times i add/ mix/ wait to separate a 50 ml NPS (for that ~750 ml mix in the jar).
in Step Seven: Pulling :
Repeat Steps Six and Seven four more times, giving five pulls in total. (more pulls if you feel that you want to)
so does that mean that i do this 4 times (4 X 50ml NPS), mixing/letting separate FOUR times for every 50 ml of NPS i add
If so, this means i use about 200-250 ml NPS for 4-5 Pulls ? Just want to make sure of that?
How much time to wait for different pulls is recommended?
I already did a simple STB to a batch of MHRB that turned out to be trunk bark, but i added NPS only once - 50ml , mix, shake, wait to separate - repeat this 5 times, waited for the first separation an hour, and for the next four about 15-20 minutes each)? I got only two little yellow bunks of goo, but wasn't surprised, having in mind it's trunk bark.
This time i want to make everything by the letter, so as to get better results
2) I plan to get a pH paper to check levels. I know it's not a MUST, but i prefer to use it. Another thing i am not sure about :
2.1 When acidifying, pH must reach about 3,5 ? Correct me if i'm wrong
2.2 When basifying, pH must reach 13,5 - 14? Correct me if i'm wrong
Best Regards!
Slugware
add 50ml nap... mix/shake/separate four times so it is good and mixed and transfer has taken place.
So yes you will need at least 200ml nap Or you can reuse the nap after it has frozen... recycle it.
pH is 2–4 for the acid stage
pH is 12 or above for the base stage.
95% acetic is strong, you won't need much. (vinegar is only 5%)
add 50ml nap... mix/shake/separate four times so it is good and mixed and transfer has taken place.
So yes you will need at least 200ml nap Or you can reuse the nap after it has frozen... recycle it.
pH is 2–4 for the acid stage
pH is 12 or above for the base stage.
95% acetic is strong, you won't need much. (vinegar is only 5%)
Nicita
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macguyver said:
I assume that this is the product of the filtration after extracting from the seeds? If so, it looks fine
Continue with salt precipitation to get much of the stuff out that you do not want in your product. Get a black light. You can use it to check, where your alkaloids are. They have a really strong fluorescens. Even small splashes on furniture, hands, arms etc. glow under the black light.
I am having a problem with my extraction.
I just performed Cyb's hybrid Salt Tek, using 50g mimosa, followed the directions 100%, but during the freeze precip stage, I am yielding zero material. I've tried partially evaporating the naptha and re-freezing, but this does not seem to produce any additional results.
Following that, I performed Noman's tek on an additional 50g of mimosa, experiencing the same result.
I am curious if anyone has any clues as to what might be happening, because I would assume even if I had bad quality bark, there would be at least a little material left behind.
Marsofold tek worked fine for me, but that was circa 2008, so I can't really comment too much about that.
I just performed Cyb's hybrid Salt Tek, using 50g mimosa, followed the directions 100%, but during the freeze precip stage, I am yielding zero material. I've tried partially evaporating the naptha and re-freezing, but this does not seem to produce any additional results.
Following that, I performed Noman's tek on an additional 50g of mimosa, experiencing the same result.
I am curious if anyone has any clues as to what might be happening, because I would assume even if I had bad quality bark, there would be at least a little material left behind.
Marsofold tek worked fine for me, but that was circa 2008, so I can't really comment too much about that.
slugware
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cyb said:Slugware
add 50ml nap... mix/shake/separate four times so it is good and mixed and transfer has taken place.
So yes you will need at least 200ml nap Or you can reuse the nap after it has frozen... recycle it.
pH is 2–4 for the acid stage
pH is 12 or above for the base stage.
95% acetic is strong, you won't need much. (vinegar is only 5%)
Thanks for helping me sort it out, Cyb! You're extremely helpful lad!
cyb said:
This is what I am wondering right now too. As far as I know, the vendor I ordered from is ok, although I did think the bark looked slightly different than I remember back in the mid 2000's, although I attributed this to declining quality, I am also beginning to think it might be something different.
The difference in appearance I am referring to specifically is the color. The bark I used previously was nice and pink, whereas this bark is decidedly lacking in that color. I could probably post a picture as well if that would be of use.
Please don't...I couldn't verify for you anyway. Sorry.
Here at the Nexus we don't talk of acquiring or sourcing.
If you are ending up with no precipitate...it is quite likely that you have trunk bark or another species altogether.
Shady vendors are the bane of our psy world I'm afraid. :?
Chaquah
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Du57mi73 said:We LOVE pics here.
Thats good to hear. Should I place them here ? Or can i create a thread somewhere ?
PantsR4squares
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I wanted to do my first chemical extraction with lsa. I have already pulled together all the needed solvents and reagents. Curious about possible methods, I have read teks that require hours of stirring. I feel as if this lengthy stirring mustn't be done by hand with a stick and bowl so primitively. Or maybe it is? Is there some cheap equipment these long procedures can accommodate?
JesusBuiltMyHotRod
They all sing the same refrain: It's fun to take a
DreaMTripper said:
I was thinking on it and remembered that one of the members here said that sodium carbonate isn't a traditional base like say calcium hydroxide, but is rather a salt that acts like a base and is able to donate the required H or O (forget which) if I remember correctly.
Maybe that odd reaction was caused by the differing properties of the sodium carbonate? Anybody else care to chime in?
DreaMTripper
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PantsR4squares said:
Check out Kashs' tek..
jesus I still dont think you saturated it enough to crash it out and also created sodium fumarate that may have had an effect, but thats just a guess Im baffled to be honest.…
JesusBuiltMyHotRod
They all sing the same refrain: It's fun to take a
See, that's what he thought and is why he dumped an excess of fumaric straight into the large jar and stirred the hell out of it and when nothing started to form after a few hours and he gave up on it until that reaction occured.
Whatever formed as a side product separated itself immediately and was easily washed out. The resulting purifed golden goo was mind blowing though, thought he did too much with 20mg at first but then it got awesome and lasted for about an hour, which seemed kind of long to him.
Whatever formed as a side product separated itself immediately and was easily washed out. The resulting purifed golden goo was mind blowing though, thought he did too much with 20mg at first but then it got awesome and lasted for about an hour, which seemed kind of long to him.
Terrytibbs
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How can I get my hands on this new tek?
Im about to go to a friends to do the extraction, I already had an account before but have forgotten all the details and I yielded well with the old tek but would love the new version.
I cant seem to download
Im about to go to a friends to do the extraction, I already had an account before but have forgotten all the details and I yielded well with the old tek but would love the new version.
I cant seem to download
PantsR4squares
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My main question was concerning a method of stirring. Is it all by hand or is there a chemists tool that would save me the hours of work, I feel as if there has to be. Still curious which of Kash's teks i should put effort in to. His advanced one or the one pre that has mgs04(epsom salt) in step one. Wondering why his advanced tek skips that part.
JesusBuiltMyHotRod
They all sing the same refrain: It's fun to take a
Magnetic stirrer with stir bars in a pyrex beaker is what I've usually read/seen usrd. Not cheap but I can imagine the multitude of uses that could be found for it.
Haven't read the tek that you're talking about but depending on his solvent it may be immiscible with water, thus negating the need for it; he might be assuming that you already know to add it or his choice solvent brand may not have any water added.
Now I have a question.. Does anybody know why older seed:base mixtures for bufo extractions seem to form cloudy precipitation which then crashes and settles out as a crimson red goo rather than white salts after FASA is added? My friend has noticed it but never bothered to do anything with it since he has no idea what it is or its potency.
Haven't read the tek that you're talking about but depending on his solvent it may be immiscible with water, thus negating the need for it; he might be assuming that you already know to add it or his choice solvent brand may not have any water added.
Now I have a question.. Does anybody know why older seed:base mixtures for bufo extractions seem to form cloudy precipitation which then crashes and settles out as a crimson red goo rather than white salts after FASA is added? My friend has noticed it but never bothered to do anything with it since he has no idea what it is or its potency.
