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Thanks for both your answers VisualDistortion and Infundibulum 
Well SWIM was gonna use the DMT for Masses tek which involves precipitation so I guess he can forget about using Toluene then ( and probably about xylene too ).
So I guess SWIM's only choice is to get some heptane since he can't find any naphta.
What's the commercial usage of heptane besides rubber cement ? SWIM hopes it's easily available here unlike naphta.
Well SWIM was gonna use the DMT for Masses tek which involves precipitation so I guess he can forget about using Toluene then ( and probably about xylene too ).
So I guess SWIM's only choice is to get some heptane since he can't find any naphta.
What's the commercial usage of heptane besides rubber cement ? SWIM hopes it's easily available here unlike naphta.
Exarp
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Thanks Infundibulum
SWIM had evaporate the Heptane and then switched to naphtha. That means dissolving the crystals (very, very dirty crystals) in naphtha, continue to use naphtha in next 3 NP extraction. Also, SWIM was very frustrated with process, and decide to put some more Mimosa in process, but switch to STB process. Then SWIM combine all naphtha, and evaporate it to 50 ml, and freeze participate it.
The results SWIM posted HERE.
SWIM found naphtha in form of "Hempel" thinner No. 823 (for oil-based paints).
Also, SWIM is a little bit disappointed with results; or SWIM is just little wacky:?
Can You check that post that SWIM put a link for? SWIM don't have an accurate balance, and need help in eyeballing
@Psyckoz
I found n-Heptane in form of "nitro-thinner" (for nitro paints). Hope this will help:wink:
SWIM had evaporate the Heptane and then switched to naphtha. That means dissolving the crystals (very, very dirty crystals) in naphtha, continue to use naphtha in next 3 NP extraction. Also, SWIM was very frustrated with process, and decide to put some more Mimosa in process, but switch to STB process. Then SWIM combine all naphtha, and evaporate it to 50 ml, and freeze participate it.
The results SWIM posted HERE.
SWIM found naphtha in form of "Hempel" thinner No. 823 (for oil-based paints).
Also, SWIM is a little bit disappointed with results
; or SWIM is just little wacky:? Can You check that post that SWIM put a link for? SWIM don't have an accurate balance, and need help in eyeballing
@Psyckoz
I found n-Heptane in form of "nitro-thinner" (for nitro paints). Hope this will help:wink:
@ Exarp
Thanks for the tip but SWIM couldn't find anything yet.
Which made SWIM think about something : can you use White Spirit instead of Naphta or Heptane ? SWIM remembers seeing on the back of a bottle of White Spirit that it had naphta in it ( hydrotreated naphta to be more precise ).
Would that be any good ?
Thanks for the tip but SWIM couldn't find anything yet.
Which made SWIM think about something : can you use White Spirit instead of Naphta or Heptane ? SWIM remembers seeing on the back of a bottle of White Spirit that it had naphta in it ( hydrotreated naphta to be more precise ).
Would that be any good ?
White spirit works, there are people who claim to be using it for extractions. It is not a great solvent however, but has worked for SWIM's FOAF. It will give better result if warmed up a bit.
Plus, it takes ages to evaporate. Ages as in "months" depending on the temperature.
But it works nicely for freeze-precipitation so who cares for fast evaporation anyway.
Plus, it takes ages to evaporate. Ages as in "months" depending on the temperature.
But it works nicely for freeze-precipitation so who cares for fast evaporation anyway.
Hi, I'm new to the DMT world and have a question about an extraction method. If I took mimosa bark(with DMT) and put it in water with lighter fluid and then took the top solvent layer off and let that evaporate in a glass dish, would I get DMT, or a hot mess?
Glassbull said:
it wouldnt work because the dmt is in salt form in mimosa. This means it is soluble in water (thats why ayahuasca works) and NOT soluble in non-polar solvents (like lighter fluid). So you would only end up with fats/impurities and no actives. To make it soluble in lighter fluid you need to add some base to the water (like NaOH, caustic soda. But be careful, it can blind you and all!) to get the pH higher, and then it works, because it becomes dmt freebase which is soluble in the solvent
SWIM's cat doesn't wanna seem like an ass, but he's doing he extraction now and wuld really like to know if liquid lye for drains work as well.
He slowly added 200 ml of lye for a bit more than 3000 ml of water about then 10 mins ago and didn't notice any heating.
Is it still ok to add the MHRB to it ?
He slowly added 200 ml of lye for a bit more than 3000 ml of water about then 10 mins ago and didn't notice any heating.
Is it still ok to add the MHRB to it ?
Depends on in which tek one wants to substitute lye. For an STB, the only substitute for lye is potassium hydroxide. For A/B, sodium carbonate or calciium hydroxide are used to raise the pH high enough should lye is not available.Glassbull said:
What is that liquid lye composed of? If it is lye mixed with water it will be fine. If it contains other stuff (please read label), then the other stuff might be more suitable for drains than humans. Remember of GIGO rule (=Garbage In, Garbage Out)!Psyckoz said:
SWIM added more lye ( 100 ML ) and go the heat ^^
He now added the bark and mixed it real good, he's gonna let it sit for an hour or so now before adding naphta.
Infundibulum, thx again for your answer btw, and the lye just says caustic soda for drains ( NaOh ).
So I guess it's really just lye.
EDIT : SWIM added 200 ml of naphta and shook it in a jug. But is it normal for the layer of naphta to be so small ?
On the pics SWIM has seen it looks bigger than what he can see in his jug even after letting it sit for 5 min to fully separate.
EDIT II : SWIM separated the realy small layer of naphta and was left with something like 80-100 ML of a slightly yellow liquid. Is it normal to only get half or less than half than the naphta previously used ? There wasn't any left on the jug. SWIM put the yellowish liquid in the freezer and is now wondering what to do : add more lye to dissolve some big chunks that were left or add more naphta to facilitate the separations maybe ?
He now added the bark and mixed it real good, he's gonna let it sit for an hour or so now before adding naphta.
Infundibulum, thx again for your answer btw, and the lye just says caustic soda for drains ( NaOh ).
So I guess it's really just lye.
EDIT : SWIM added 200 ml of naphta and shook it in a jug. But is it normal for the layer of naphta to be so small ?
On the pics SWIM has seen it looks bigger than what he can see in his jug even after letting it sit for 5 min to fully separate.
EDIT II : SWIM separated the realy small layer of naphta and was left with something like 80-100 ML of a slightly yellow liquid. Is it normal to only get half or less than half than the naphta previously used ? There wasn't any left on the jug. SWIM put the yellowish liquid in the freezer and is now wondering what to do : add more lye to dissolve some big chunks that were left or add more naphta to facilitate the separations maybe ?
SWIY should not really shake it. Just mix it gently for some time. What SWIY must have gotten is some emulsion that will take some good time to settle. Emulsions prevent the naphtha form separating forming a foamy layer on the interphase of the two layers. Just wait for a day or so for this to happen.Psyckoz said:
Ideally oen should get back as much naphtha as he put in, practically however it's going to be a bitt less.
SWIM has been working on an extraction. he used noman's extraction tek to the T with 200g mhrb. his yields were only 325mgs of pure spice from 5 pulls. when SWIM used the same tek on 25g mhrb he yielded 280mgs...what did he do wrong with the big pulls? it was the same bark from the same place. He just doesn't understand.
but what about the temperature, was it different ? or how long SWIY let each pull stand or how much he mixed?
how did SWIY recollect the crystals, evaporating or freeze precipitating? If precipitating, then was the naphtha pre-evaporated to a quarter of the amount or so, before putting in the freezer?
how did SWIY recollect the crystals, evaporating or freeze precipitating? If precipitating, then was the naphtha pre-evaporated to a quarter of the amount or so, before putting in the freezer?
Well he would mix 15mL of water and 1g of lye per g of bark. He would mix the water/lye first, and let that sit for 20 or 30 while he broke up the bark. Then he would grind the bark down to dust(as close to dust as possible) and place with water/lye. He would shake that up and let it sit for 30 or so, then put 200ml of naptha in with the mixture. he would usually let that sit overnight agitating occasionally then pull and repeat. the first time was not too promising, so he heated the entire thing up and then pulled and freeze percipitated. He tried evaporating and it never did any better than when not. the heat seemed to help when he would heat up the entire thing, but not much. He decided to try a 25 gram batch to try to fix errors and did everything just like before and got a 1% yeild. he is very confused and dissatisfied, although he did try a little out and it was AMAZING! what should i tell him to do?
VisualDistortion
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Does anyone know of an adhesive that i can use that is not soluble in naptha or xylene?
why? I can imagine you are trying to isolate something that will be in contact with the solvent but SWIM would avoid this altogether. Glues/adhesives are many times dissolved in solvents of the sort. SWIM would just find another way of accomplishing his goals without having adhesive touching the stuff.. So what is SWIY trying to do, maybe SWIM or others can suggest work-arounds
VisualDistortion
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endlessness said:
I'm gonna use a turkey baster not a pipette. so i want to glue on a tip that is a bit finer than the turkey baster tip.
