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Ok, can someone salvage this? Friend forgot to mix the cactus powder and calcium hydroxide mix with water prior to adding the d-limonene during an extraction. Now, instead of a clear greenish fluid,he has a pea soupy liquid. What is the best way to salvage the maximum goodies from the goopy mess he has? Is there anything to salt out of the d-limonene, or did the lack of H2O prior to adding the solvent brevent proper basification? How to save this mess? Ideas from the chemists out there?
 
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So I'm doing my first extraction using the very famous D-limonene tek to extract mescaline from some cactus. I have a couple questions reguarding both the tech, supplies, and risks involved.

My first questions is about the basee. This is kind of a question for 69ron, but I'm sure theres many of you that could tell me the answer. I understand that 69ron found that KOH is actually better then lye despite its lower pH because has some properties to help break down the mucus and plant matter. I also saw alot of people with concerns over KOH not being basic enough. So my question is: would it be worth my time to try starting with the KOH and then adding lye to the solution? KOH breaks down mucus, NaOH creates a super high pH to freebase all the mescaline.

So I've ordered the d-limonene and a separatory funnel to my residence so far. I've had trouble finding really almost any ingredients I need in stores. I still need to order my base, the cactus, possibly a scale, and the acid. I might be able to get my hands on the base and acid from a friend. Would I be taking a big risk ordering all these supplies online to my house? Also, do any of you have tips on finding this stuff locally (I live in ATL at the moment).

My final question is about the cactus source. I was planning on ordering IcaroVerde. I hear alot about FV, but I'm not sure what the place is. Would I be getting more mesc for my money getting it from a different source?
 
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fizznab said:
So I'm doing my first extraction using the very famous D-limonene tek to extract mescaline from some cactus. I have a couple questions reguarding both the tech, supplies, and risks involved.

My first questions is about the basee. This is kind of a question for 69ron, but I'm sure theres many of you that could tell me the answer. I understand that 69ron found that KOH is actually better then lye despite its lower pH because has some properties to help break down the mucus and plant matter. I also saw alot of people with concerns over KOH not being basic enough. So my question is: would it be worth my time to try starting with the KOH and then adding lye to the solution? KOH breaks down mucus, NaOH creates a super high pH to freebase all the mescaline.

So I've ordered the d-limonene and a separatory funnel to my residence so far. I've had trouble finding really almost any ingredients I need in stores. I still need to order my base, the cactus, possibly a scale, and the acid. I might be able to get my hands on the base and acid from a friend. Would I be taking a big risk ordering all these supplies online to my house? Also, do any of you have tips on finding this stuff locally (I live in ATL at the moment).

My final question is about the cactus source. I was planning on ordering IcaroVerde. I hear alot about FV, but I'm not sure what the place is. Would I be getting more mesc for my money getting it from a different source?
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You mean Ca(OH)2 instead of KOH?
 
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Madcapv2 said:
for algorithmic

the limonene will be clear but tinted before you add any vinegar. once the vinegar is in there it becomes more opaque (maybe from vinegar droplets disbursed throughout the limonene)

The vinegar will collect at the bottom and be clear again, slightly tinted.

Crystals are good. Non-crystals can still scrape up into something good. If you kept it all food-grade it can't hurt to try it out, right?

Also.... consider a cheap french press coffee pot. Pour your limonene through a coffee filter before adding vinegar. The T-shirt just adds some variables (dye, detergent residue, etc)
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Madcapv2, thanks for the tips. SWIM has a coffee press on the way. SWIM supposes that although there were crystals, perhaps the rest was inactive junk and SWIM's 400 mg dose perhaps contained <100mg of active alkaloids.

SWIM is now trying the "Pure white mescaline HCl from cactus using d-limonene" technique.
 
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Just done first extraction and was wondering HOW fine the bark has to be. Mine was pre powdered but still had alot of the stringy crap and i thought it would be ok just to put it in like that because it would break apart in the liquid? This will be ok yes?

Suppose there evaping now so, only time will tell but reassurance is always good.
 
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Astralking said:
Just done first extraction and was wondering HOW fine the bark has to be. Mine was pre powdered but still had alot of the stringy crap and i thought it would be ok just to put it in like that because it would break apart in the liquid? This will be ok yes?

Suppose there evaping now so, only time will tell but reassurance is always good.
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MHRB not ground to the absolute powder is totally fine, no prob with extraction. Anyone who has powdered the bark themselves will almost always find "stringy crap" (or fibers so to speak) that will not powderise easily and they can be separated through a sieve to give you the fine powder and the fibers. In your case, the vendor just did not shift the powdered bark through a sieve, so you got a mixture of the powder and the fibers.

which is totally ok of course.
 
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One more question :D

In my first extraction i got a tinnyyyyy bit of the root bark black slime in my baking dish, but poured off the naphtha and now theres no visible black sludge at all. I am guessing since they wont mix, this means that there was no lye/root bark in the solution if it is not at all visible? I really hope so :p
 
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Quick question guys.
My friend wants to know if theres a huge difference in quality when doing straight evaporation vs Freeze precipitation

Has freeze precipitated 3 batches already but has one that is being stubborn and is refusing to precip, He understands it must be too dilute but has already evaporated mixture down by a lot and still no freeze precip (It was a combined container of pulls 2 and 3 together, was an accident). If he just evaporatees its and skips freeze precip will this effect the quality or quantity of crystal he gets?

Thanks
cash
 
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It seems to be evaping gets a larger yield of more yellow spice and freeze prep gets less whiter spice. Different people prefer different types but from reading up it seems that it makes little difference what color it is when it comes to potency. The only thing that the color seems to effect is the harshness.

Then again i'm just going on what i've read.
 
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hello swims, quick question(s),

I am about to start the Marsofold tek, except I am using 113 grams of MHRB (which is a quarter of a pound)

Do I simply just adjust the rest of the measurements in the tek accordingly? (just quarter them?)

Thanks in advance.

Also I know this is a difficult/vague question, but just off the top of your head how much spice do you think I will get? This is my first time extracting dmt, but I have done other extractions.... thanks again
 
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Another question...

One of my pulls has left me with a yellowish oil, which freezes into a dirty yellow crushed ice kind of thing. I'm going to try adding some warm naptha, any other suggestions?
 
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nightowl said:
Another question...

One of my pulls has left me with a yellowish oil, which freezes into a dirty yellow crushed ice kind of thing. I'm going to try adding some warm naptha, any other suggestions?
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which solvent were you using?
if it's toluene\xylene,then the yellow gooey is a mixture of n,n - dmt, n-oxide, jungle spice and some plant oils
try completely dry it and pull with hexane or naphtha, then evaporate naptha.that will result only dmt
 
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