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Luke Skywalker
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What would be the best most efficient way to make a changa blend if you have B Caapi vine, Chaliponga leaf, Chacruna Leaf, Mimosa Powder and Syrian Rue? These are the items I have available and I'm looking for the best most efficient way to make a changa blend in the safest way without using any chemicals..
Parshvik Chintan
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well idk about most efficient but i can tell you that i would do a crude extract on the caapi vine (brew a tea, fine it with an egg white, filter well and reduce then evap [can clean with alcohol after that - can also be basified])Luke Skywalker said:
the chaliponga and chacruna leaf can be added into the changa (chaliponga will add its own character from the 5-meo), but i would save most (if not all) of that for oral use (tea).
the mimosa powder is definitely worth extracting some jim-jam from if you have enough.
if not you can do a similar crude extract as the caapi, or make into a tea/CWE and drink as is (fining is recommended for tea.)
syrian rue i would definitely extract (no real need for a full-spectrum/crude extract).
i definitely recommend using a food-safe base, preferably lime (CaOH).
you can check the manske method, tao of rue extraction, and gibran's easy caapi alkaloid extraction on some good methods of extracting rue.
that should give you just about the most out of what you have.
but you have a lot of options, so feel free to play around and experiment. do what feels right.
if you want you could probably extract the chaliponga/chacruna (maybe you could do a 10x extract with alcohol or something as well).
jamie.jrl88
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Hi everyone. Could do with a bit of help on the cyb tek. Ive done it once and it worked perfect. Im now doing it for the second time and it doesnt seem to be going to plan Sad.
Basically ive done everything the same as the 50g mhrb cyb tek only this time ive left it to basify over night then started the pulls. When i was pulling the first one it came out clear and not a milky. So something dosent seem right? hopefully someone can be of some help. PEACE
Basically ive done everything the same as the 50g mhrb cyb tek only this time ive left it to basify over night then started the pulls. When i was pulling the first one it came out clear and not a milky. So something dosent seem right? hopefully someone can be of some help. PEACE
razinlover
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Hi,
SWIM is doing his first-time extraction with Q21Q21's Tek 2.
He is using powdered MHRB, pure lime, regular white vinegar and Zippo fuel as naphtha.
He started with 100g bark and all went well, up to the pulls.
He mixed 100ml naphtha with the bark solution while warming it in a warm bath.
After 10min and periodically stirring, he tried pouring the naphtha off.
However, almost no naphtha came out...
He then tried using a coffee filter to filter it out.
This worked, but got him a brownish naphtha solution.
At one point, the filter even ripped and he had to start all over trying to filter it.
At the end, the pyrex pan had very little naphtha.
It is currently in the freezer and he will check tomorrow for any crystals.
Did he do anything wrong? Should he have used more naphtha?
Maybe he stirred too much?
Thanks in advance!
SWIM is doing his first-time extraction with Q21Q21's Tek 2.
He is using powdered MHRB, pure lime, regular white vinegar and Zippo fuel as naphtha.
He started with 100g bark and all went well, up to the pulls.
He mixed 100ml naphtha with the bark solution while warming it in a warm bath.
After 10min and periodically stirring, he tried pouring the naphtha off.
However, almost no naphtha came out...
He then tried using a coffee filter to filter it out.
This worked, but got him a brownish naphtha solution.
At one point, the filter even ripped and he had to start all over trying to filter it.
At the end, the pyrex pan had very little naphtha.
It is currently in the freezer and he will check tomorrow for any crystals.
Did he do anything wrong? Should he have used more naphtha?
Maybe he stirred too much?
Thanks in advance!
Earthlova
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InLaKesh said:
I would recommend you to use a big glass bottle so you can close it with a cap so you dont get any Natriumhydroxid on you
when you shaking it.Just start with small amounts Natriumhydroxid and water so it doesnt get to hot. (make sure you do it right so it dont explode in your face)
Just make sure you have a robust bottle
razinlover said:
you must wait a while for the solution to stabalize so the dark solution makes the naphtha to come on top.
Try give it a little more time before separate the layers.
Hi All!
Im using q21's tek for doing my first extraction. What happens is that I used sunflower oil instead of Limonene as solvent, and now I cant separate the residues of the basification step from the solvent for doing the salting step. The liquid wont get bifased be letting it rest sometime, but it seems like theres not much of lime into it. I tried to filter it with a cotton ball and coffe filters, also with an old t-shirt tissue, but I just got to get the lime with some bark outta the solvent. Can I do the salting anyway? If I cant, how am I supposed to extract the solvent from the bark and lime residues (if actually there are lime residues into it).
Thanks All!
Im using q21's tek for doing my first extraction. What happens is that I used sunflower oil instead of Limonene as solvent, and now I cant separate the residues of the basification step from the solvent for doing the salting step. The liquid wont get bifased be letting it rest sometime, but it seems like theres not much of lime into it. I tried to filter it with a cotton ball and coffe filters, also with an old t-shirt tissue, but I just got to get the lime with some bark outta the solvent. Can I do the salting anyway? If I cant, how am I supposed to extract the solvent from the bark and lime residues (if actually there are lime residues into it).
Thanks All!
Hi there Diazin,
to remove any impurities, you can try to wash your oil with a sodium carbonate solution. Check the step #4 in the Hippie Salad Oil Tek, also using vegetable oil.
to remove any impurities, you can try to wash your oil with a sodium carbonate solution. Check the step #4 in the Hippie Salad Oil Tek, also using vegetable oil.
Hi Vodsel! First of all, thank you for replying!
Im gonna try the sodium carbonate tomorrow. Ill let the content to sit for this night and see what happens, since it seems to, although slowly, becoming bifasic. Then Ill just do the sodium carbonate to fully extract the whole oil from the bark, since it seems that theres no lime into the liquid.
Im gonna try the sodium carbonate tomorrow. Ill let the content to sit for this night and see what happens, since it seems to, although slowly, becoming bifasic. Then Ill just do the sodium carbonate to fully extract the whole oil from the bark, since it seems that theres no lime into the liquid.
staresatwalls
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hello all, great thread here. hopefully one of you beautiful people could help me out today.
i'm on the 9th naphtha wash in the panoramix hbwr lsa tek
wiki.dmt-nexus.me
and i've been decanting the naphtha into another bottle and quite a bit of something has settled to the bottom of it. my question is should i gather this and add it to the rest to do acetone pulls on? or do you think some of what i've been pulling OUT of the hbwr seeds has settled on the bottom.
i'm on the 9th naphtha wash in the panoramix hbwr lsa tek
PanoraMIX HBWR Extract - DMT-Nexus Wiki
and i've been decanting the naphtha into another bottle and quite a bit of something has settled to the bottom of it. my question is should i gather this and add it to the rest to do acetone pulls on? or do you think some of what i've been pulling OUT of the hbwr seeds has settled on the bottom.
Mushu
In due time.
Hello whoever.
I recently tried Kash's LSA extraction. Let me start by highlighting my only differences from the tek: I started with 750 Morning Glory seeds, not HBWR (my next go will feature 200 HBWR, I just happened to not use them this first time), and instead of toluene or DCM, I used Xylene.
My main question is about the final pull (where I used Xylene): What is the best technique for mixing? I used half-pint mason jars, so I shook the hell out of all of my mixtures really, thinking that my vigor would somehow encourage more LSA to jump ship. However, I have seen elsewhere people saying to stir gently for these kinds of extracts. How should I generally be handling these mixtures?
Also, from whosoever cares' previous experience(s), what types of mistakes are common for this extraction, i.e. what should I watch out for, like ph (I just used the approximations in the tek like "pinch" and "~1ml" etc, but I have ph strips on the way, so I should be able to be more precise next go round), letting it sit in certain solutions too long, shaking too vigorously, mixing incorrectly, and so on.
I attempted to follow the tek as scrupulously as possible, but as this was my first attempt at an extraction, I'm sure my general technique had its flaws. I would love for anyone to give me any advice or insight as to how to go about this extract again, especially someone who has followed this tek to good results before (Kash's input would be worshipped.)
Thank you
MUSHUSHAMPOO
edit: I'm not really sure where to post this kind of question, so until someone tells me other wise I'm going to try to start a new thread with it I suppose. Wrong?
I recently tried Kash's LSA extraction. Let me start by highlighting my only differences from the tek: I started with 750 Morning Glory seeds, not HBWR (my next go will feature 200 HBWR, I just happened to not use them this first time), and instead of toluene or DCM, I used Xylene.
My main question is about the final pull (where I used Xylene): What is the best technique for mixing? I used half-pint mason jars, so I shook the hell out of all of my mixtures really, thinking that my vigor would somehow encourage more LSA to jump ship. However, I have seen elsewhere people saying to stir gently for these kinds of extracts. How should I generally be handling these mixtures?
Also, from whosoever cares' previous experience(s), what types of mistakes are common for this extraction, i.e. what should I watch out for, like ph (I just used the approximations in the tek like "pinch" and "~1ml" etc, but I have ph strips on the way, so I should be able to be more precise next go round), letting it sit in certain solutions too long, shaking too vigorously, mixing incorrectly, and so on.
I attempted to follow the tek as scrupulously as possible, but as this was my first attempt at an extraction, I'm sure my general technique had its flaws. I would love for anyone to give me any advice or insight as to how to go about this extract again, especially someone who has followed this tek to good results before (Kash's input would be worshipped.)
Thank you
MUSHUSHAMPOO
edit: I'm not really sure where to post this kind of question, so until someone tells me other wise I'm going to try to start a new thread with it I suppose. Wrong?
Listen, maybe Im just too dumb. What happens is the following: Im using q21's tek. When I evaporate the tincture, I do it in an oven-safe dish on my stove. Does DMT denaturate with such a heat? Because I get the brown goo, although way too oily, it seems just like the one in the q21's pic, but when I smoke it, nothing.. and I tried with large amounts.
GossipWisdom
For anything to be, all must be
Noob here trying to use Cyb salt tek... I'm skipping the acid stage (as it says you can in the tek) but cyb has been pretty adamant about ending up with 700ml of liquid at the end...
How do I make up for the 200ml of water and the 60ml of vinegar used for the acid step to get to 700ml?
Does this matter? Do I just add more water and not add the vinegar or just go with the mix as is? Any help is appreciated as I'm in mid stroke with this thing. Thanks gang!
How do I make up for the 200ml of water and the 60ml of vinegar used for the acid step to get to 700ml?
Does this matter? Do I just add more water and not add the vinegar or just go with the mix as is? Any help is appreciated as I'm in mid stroke with this thing. Thanks gang!
GossipWisdom
Just add more water...the amounts shown are just to raise the water levels to a desired height in the 1 litre bottle so that the solvent layer can be reached effectively.
More water won't hurt.
If you skip the acid soak, you are now doing an STB with salt addition.
:thumb_up:
Just add more water...the amounts shown are just to raise the water levels to a desired height in the 1 litre bottle so that the solvent layer can be reached effectively.
More water won't hurt.
If you skip the acid soak, you are now doing an STB with salt addition.
:thumb_up:
end of flesh
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I haven't found much information on the technique I've been contemplating so help will be much appreciated. I recieved 100g of acacia confusa rootbark and I also have syrian rue although I honestly do not want to use any maoi. My plan was to use a traditional method to brew 20g of the acacia and reduce to store in a mason jar to evaporate for a few days. After a few days I'm guessing the result will be a tar/resin or a salt? If that's the case I've read that the melting point would be high, so would smoking in a light bulb be affective?. What about sublingually? Would i just split up whatever product i have into 2 doses (would the resulting resin/salt equate to a formosahuasca dosage). Would like to find an alternative way to breakthrough without maoi or an extraction tek.
Priestofloltol
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Hey guys I'm a little worried about my yield for my first extraction. I used 100g mhrb using a straight to base extraction where I mixed the powdered bark with 1L of water, left this for an hour. Then added 120g lye, stirred plenty, and left this for another hour. I then added 120ml of warmed naphtha and stirred, leaving this for 6 hours. I pulled this then added another 120ml naphtha (I used lighter fluid btw) stirred and left this overnight. Probably another 8 hours. I cleaned each pull by adding 400ml water, shaking the jars and then removing the water. I then combined these two pulls, let them evaporate to 3/4 their initial volume and freeze precipitated the mixture. I placed it in the fridge for 4 hours and then in the freezer for 18 hours. This yielded roughly 0.2g of white/yellow crystals. I have read that the average yield is about 1% and so I'm at a loss as to where the rest has gone. I am currently evaporating the extracted naphtha again and will probably freeze precipitated when the volume is low enough, will it save my skin?
Any help would be much appreciated
Thanks
Cal
Any help would be much appreciated
Thanks
Cal
Priestofloltol
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Jees wrote:
Did you add some sodium carbonate in that water to make it a base?
No I didn't, this was the step I thought was a bad idea but the tek I was following suggested it so I followed.
Should I have?
Did you add some sodium carbonate in that water to make it a base?
No I didn't, this was the step I thought was a bad idea but the tek I was following suggested it so I followed.
Should I have?
