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Priestofloltol
You have to mix the nap and the bark layer many times...
Not just stir and leave it.
Nap is not a magic magnet that will suck up all the goodies.
It must 'touch' every part of the black liquid so that the transfer can take place.
Therefore many 'stirs' over an hour will transfer and saturate the nap ready for pulling away and freezing.
This may account for your low yield.
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You have to mix the nap and the bark layer many times...
Not just stir and leave it.
Nap is not a magic magnet that will suck up all the goodies.
It must 'touch' every part of the black liquid so that the transfer can take place.
Therefore many 'stirs' over an hour will transfer and saturate the nap ready for pulling away and freezing.
This may account for your low yield.
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Priestofloltol
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Thanks Cyb,
To be honest, I did stir quite a few times throughout the time, maybe 4 or 5 for each.
I just forgot to write that in my initial post. I may not have stirred enough or something.
I did only stir when I was present so a few times before the bulk of my waiting and a
couple of times after.
To be honest, I did stir quite a few times throughout the time, maybe 4 or 5 for each.
I just forgot to write that in my initial post. I may not have stirred enough or something.
I did only stir when I was present so a few times before the bulk of my waiting and a
couple of times after.
BlazingMind
Rising Star
Hello, i was wondering if somebody could help me understand what went wrong in my recent extraction. The reason i believe it failed is because after leaving the naptha in the freezer for 2 days, there were no signs of crystals forming. For reference, i was using Marsofold's Tek. So this is what I did that deviated from the tek.
After acid/dmt cooking, i poured the solution from the crock pot into a glass jar. i let the solution sit in the glass jar for 2 days. I didn't have another glass container, so i poured the contents back into the crock pot (which i had cleaned out with tap water and let to sit dry), cleaned out the glass jar with tap water, and poured it back in.
I didn't have pure NaOH (lye) so i used Instant Power: Hair and Grease opener (http://www.scotchcorp.com/downloads/MSDS UK 1969-70.pdf). Now the Safety and Data sheet said it was 60-70% NaOH and 5-10% KOH. Since both are strong bases, i didn't think much of it (i assumed the rest of the contents was water). I adjusted the mass of the base to be dissolved to make up for the lack of purity (used 71g instead of 50g).
Upon adding the basic solution, the contents of the jar turned completely black. Gently rocked the jar side to side for 5 min, added the naptha, rocked for another 5-10 min, and then let sit for 2 days (i didn't realize at the time that the naptha WASNT supposed to change color
).
I then used a baster to separate the naptha and put the contents in a small plastic cup.
I left the cup in for one night. Checked the next day, taking it out for maybe 1min: nothing. Same thing next day: nothing.
Someone wanna help me out on this?
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After acid/dmt cooking, i poured the solution from the crock pot into a glass jar. i let the solution sit in the glass jar for 2 days. I didn't have another glass container, so i poured the contents back into the crock pot (which i had cleaned out with tap water and let to sit dry), cleaned out the glass jar with tap water, and poured it back in.
I didn't have pure NaOH (lye) so i used Instant Power: Hair and Grease opener (http://www.scotchcorp.com/downloads/MSDS UK 1969-70.pdf). Now the Safety and Data sheet said it was 60-70% NaOH and 5-10% KOH. Since both are strong bases, i didn't think much of it (i assumed the rest of the contents was water). I adjusted the mass of the base to be dissolved to make up for the lack of purity (used 71g instead of 50g).
Upon adding the basic solution, the contents of the jar turned completely black. Gently rocked the jar side to side for 5 min, added the naptha, rocked for another 5-10 min, and then let sit for 2 days (i didn't realize at the time that the naptha WASNT supposed to change color
). I then used a baster to separate the naptha and put the contents in a small plastic cup.
I left the cup in for one night. Checked the next day, taking it out for maybe 1min: nothing. Same thing next day: nothing.
Someone wanna help me out on this?
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Earthlova
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Blazingmind
First of all try to get real lye.There is in every food store in cleaning section for cleaning pipes ex.
Then Polvo Tepezcohuite,As far as i understand that is roasted and upper bark scrapping and you want the real root bark,real mimosa root bark.
I am alost sure you are using the wrong material.
First of all try to get real lye.There is in every food store in cleaning section for cleaning pipes ex.
Then Polvo Tepezcohuite,As far as i understand that is roasted and upper bark scrapping and you want the real root bark,real mimosa root bark.
I am alost sure you are using the wrong material.
RainbowRAdiance
Rising Star
Hello there to all brothers and sisters !
I hope you are all well .
I am a new member here .
I just have a simple question for now .
I have some ethanol/alcohol liquid that is supposed to be pure , but I do not know for sure since a friend of mine brought it from a hospital in a bottle with no description on it .
It is clear and colorless and smells like pure , and when I pour some in hands and rub , it evaporates instandly .
My question is this , since I do not know how pure it is , also having poor knowledge about chemistry , does anyone know if other chemicals are inside that can not evaporate in dry air , and are harmful in human consumption ?
I did some research on the net but haven't found many answers , I will appreciate a direct answer from a brother that has good knowledge in chemistry .
I just did an extraction from some herbs using this ethanol liquid , then I just placed the liquid extract in glass plate and let it dry with air .
I did this with 3 different herbs , one of them is dried completely , left with brown powder with some crystals in . The other 2 plant extracts are left with a sticky tar resin .
Now , I just want to know if these extracts have any chemicals in that didn't evaporate and can be dangerous for human .
Is it possible that this ethanol liquid has anything else inside that is not good for human consumption ?
Thank you
Blessings to all
I hope you are all well .
I am a new member here .
I just have a simple question for now .
I have some ethanol/alcohol liquid that is supposed to be pure , but I do not know for sure since a friend of mine brought it from a hospital in a bottle with no description on it .
It is clear and colorless and smells like pure , and when I pour some in hands and rub , it evaporates instandly .
My question is this , since I do not know how pure it is , also having poor knowledge about chemistry , does anyone know if other chemicals are inside that can not evaporate in dry air , and are harmful in human consumption ?
I did some research on the net but haven't found many answers , I will appreciate a direct answer from a brother that has good knowledge in chemistry .
I just did an extraction from some herbs using this ethanol liquid , then I just placed the liquid extract in glass plate and let it dry with air .
I did this with 3 different herbs , one of them is dried completely , left with brown powder with some crystals in . The other 2 plant extracts are left with a sticky tar resin .
Now , I just want to know if these extracts have any chemicals in that didn't evaporate and can be dangerous for human .
Is it possible that this ethanol liquid has anything else inside that is not good for human consumption ?
Thank you
Blessings to all
BlazingMind
Rising Star
Hmmmmmm damn, does anybody know a reliable source to order root bark from? Or if posting venders isn't allowed, does anyone know where i might start looking for some?
Journeymann
Rising Star
Greetings folks,
This would be my first official post about the teks.
I have flooded my mind with most of the teks and am sinking now... not that I am complaining... quite the contrary... extreme gratitude is flowing to the authors of the teks!
I thought you could use one tek for all alkaloids and that doesnt seems to be the case. It is starting to look like specific procedures for each different alkaloid. Is that right? I like different parts of teks but do not know what I can combine from them now.
I would like to build my teks this way as a general rule with as few steps as possible with no defatting steps.
My Goal is to understand the processes involved to produce orally administrable doses of the full spectrum spices from any crude first acid washed extract after I have filtered out the plant material by physical means. I want to be able to crash out the alks from each crude/filtered acid wash extracts without any of the defatting steps. I really like the freeze crashing and room temp crashing options and want to use them only if possible.
Can it be that simple for orally administrable doses of any spice on the Nexus site?
1. Acid Wash Filtered Material
2. Base it. (or STB)
3. Crash with acid of choice.
4. Rinse final crystals/precip.
5. Oral Administration.
Thanks in advance for any and all help in refining my understanding of the teks that are before me.
ps
I have practiced a couple of teks as walk-thrus with sage and jasmine flowers as a material with no concern of the final products. Just noting my experience with these teks.
This would be my first official post about the teks.
I have flooded my mind with most of the teks and am sinking now... not that I am complaining... quite the contrary... extreme gratitude is flowing to the authors of the teks!
I thought you could use one tek for all alkaloids and that doesnt seems to be the case. It is starting to look like specific procedures for each different alkaloid. Is that right? I like different parts of teks but do not know what I can combine from them now.
I would like to build my teks this way as a general rule with as few steps as possible with no defatting steps.
My Goal is to understand the processes involved to produce orally administrable doses of the full spectrum spices from any crude first acid washed extract after I have filtered out the plant material by physical means. I want to be able to crash out the alks from each crude/filtered acid wash extracts without any of the defatting steps. I really like the freeze crashing and room temp crashing options and want to use them only if possible.
Can it be that simple for orally administrable doses of any spice on the Nexus site?
1. Acid Wash Filtered Material
2. Base it. (or STB)
3. Crash with acid of choice.
4. Rinse final crystals/precip.
5. Oral Administration.
Thanks in advance for any and all help in refining my understanding of the teks that are before me.
ps
I have practiced a couple of teks as walk-thrus with sage and jasmine flowers as a material with no concern of the final products. Just noting my experience with these teks.
3rdI
veni, vidi, spici
just do the teks as stated in the teks, there no point trying to fiddle with them before you have done them a few times and have got to grips with them, they are the way they are for a reason, they work.
i would recommend the following
extracts
DMT- cyb's salt tek
harmalas- gibran2's tek
brews
just read the "all about Aya" thread for details on how long to brew different plants for
good luck
i would recommend the following
extracts
DMT- cyb's salt tek
harmalas- gibran2's tek
brews
just read the "all about Aya" thread for details on how long to brew different plants for
good luck
Journeymann said:
This Thread... may help your understanding a little more (if you haven't seen it already)
Journeymann
Rising Star
Thank you for your reply 3rdI and encouragement.
I do quiver at the thought of the ingestion of something that has been in/near solvents (even d-Limonene). That is what I am trying to build a tek that doesnt include them.
I will look at your suggestions with open eyes.
Thanks again!
I do quiver at the thought of the ingestion of something that has been in/near solvents (even d-Limonene). That is what I am trying to build a tek that doesnt include them.
I will look at your suggestions with open eyes.
Thanks again!
Journeymann
Rising Star
cyb said:
Thank you too, cyb. I have not see that article yet and it looks like a great synop of the processes involved.
I have tried a BLAB and CosmicLions - Full Spectrum Extract teks.
Ready to build my own now without solvents, if possible
Journeymann
Rising Star
3rdI said:
I dont want to loose all the 'other spices' either with all the defatting steps. I will see if I can do it, if not I will just stomach everylast drop like normal... yeah! LOL
check out the eco friendly teks that use vegetable oils, like this one: Welcome to the DMT-Nexus
Journeymann
Rising Star
cyb said:
Ok guys, I have read the teks and article recommended by cyb, but I still dont know if what I am wanting to do is even possible?
Can I create my own teks that get edible precip from crude/filtered extract without the use of petro/solvents and defatting. Just cook, filter, precip., filter/wash/, eat precip.?
Thanks for helping folks.
