official extraction help thread

[psilocybin]

Any questions or problems you may run into during an extraction can be asked to get other members input in this thread.

 

[cyb]

Ronsol lighter fluid is a very filthy naphtha. Don't use it unless you have absolutely no other choice.

That's your opinion...I use it and get 2%+...

 

[Tranzcentral]

When it comes to yield vs quality, i much prefer the latter.

That was quoted by Vovin by the way in regards to Ronsol.

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

When it comes to yield vs quality, i much prefer the latter..

EXCELLENT!
do a couple pulls with an aromatic and send me your jungle spice.
since you have no use for it, it would be a shame for it to go to waste

 

[Koblizek]

Ronsol lighter fluid is a very filthy naphtha. Don't use it unless you have absolutely no other choice.

That's your opinion...I use it and get 2%+...

Thanks for info. And is it quality stuff?

 

[dooby]

Depends on who you're asking...

Always do an evaporation test before using any solvent...

"Waschbenzin" (in German) is what you should be looking for - available in most European countries...

 

[Koblizek]

Got this one, will do evap and hope it's okay.

National Center for Forensic Science

Did an evap and it didn't leave anything. It's fine

 

[dooby]

Does anybody know if dmt-citrate will pass through a coffee filter or not? (while in aqueous solution)...

 

[Koblizek]

Just a little question, when I wanna use Cyb's Hybrid Tek and use 65g of MHRB, is multiplying lye, naphtha and water by 1,3 fine? Because 65g is 1,3 times more than 50g

 

[3rdI]

keep the levels the same, as long as it goes good and black after basing you will be fine.

I use the max ion tek and have done 100g in 1 1 litre jar and it worked just as well as 50g.

 

[dooby]

Can a high ionic strength be detrimental to crystal formation in a water crystallisation process? I think both ionic strength and crystal formation are related to inter- or intra-molecular forces, but does that mean there is a direct correlation between ionic strength and crystal formation, or not?

Sorry if this is "too advanced" a question to post here (lol) but I'm looking for a swift reply and my question may go unnoticed in its current location in a thread in the adv. chem. section

PLUR

 

[Du57mi73]

Yea. Ask that in the advanced chem section. I don't think anyone that knows the basics behind the extraction process is gonna know the correlation between ionic strength and crystal formation in an h2o solution.

 

[jfreak]

Ronsol lighter fluid is a very filthy naphtha. Don't use it unless you have absolutely no other choice.

That's your opinion...I use it and get 2%+...

Thanks for info. And is it quality stuff?

the msds says 100 % aliphatic hydrocarbon. most light some medium. ime it's absolutely fine

 

[inextweekelorp]

So my friend did some boils on some ACRB recently, however his coffee grinder broke so he ended up splitting the root bark by hand into pieces that were all smaller than a cubic centimeter. He did four 1.5 hour boils on the bark but is wondering if it would be worth shredding the bark and doing additional boils or if the bark should be fairly well exhausted at this point. The water was pH 4 and at a rolling boil most of the time.

 

[Tranzcentral]

I dont think a rolling boil is good for the bark, you might have lost yield..

From the Tek's i've read, it should be warm, almost hot, but so you can still hold your glass beaker, etc without burning yourself.

 

[inextweekelorp]

Really? I'd read in the DMT Handbook that a high boil won't reduce the yield. I know there's a bit in that guide that I later learned was bogus but I just assumed the salts would be fairly stable at a high temp....

 

[3rdI]

Salts are pretty stable, a bit of a boil is fine, you won't have lost yield.

Might be worth keeping your bark chunks and grinding them when you get a new grinder, I'd rather waste a boil than throw away bark that still had magic in it.

 

[dooby]

TSF? LWT!

I made a huge mistake just now...

I accidently tried pulling with acetone instead of naphtha - from a solution containing water, dmt, NaOH...

What now? Is this still salvageable?

This won't happen ever again - I have a system that works, but I didn't adhere to it with sufficient diligence - I'm quite confident I've learned my lesson...

PLUR

ps - TSF? = think something's funny?
LWT! = laugh with this! - (Suicidal Tendencies - How will I laugh tomorrow...?)

 

[acasian77]

TSF? LWT!

I made a huge mistake just now...

I accidently tried pulling with acetone instead of naphtha - from a solution containing water, dmt, NaOH...

What now? Is this still salvageable?

This won't happen ever again - I have a system that works, but I didn't adhere to it with sufficient diligence - I'm quite confident I've learned my lesson...

PLUR

ps - TSF? = think something's funny?
LWT! = laugh with this! - (Suicidal Tendencies - How will I laugh tomorrow...?)

uh oh. possibly make it acidic again to make them more stable as salts, and so you won't have to boil off a nasty basic solution. then boil off the acetone. rebase and pull w naphtha.

for clarity you are doing a standard acid base, or stb right?

 

[dooby]

Thanks acacian!

Yes, it's a mini-STB freebase conversion...

Acidify, boil/evap, rebase, pull...got it

PLUR

 

[Tranzcentral]

Hi everyone, i'm beginning my second extraction with another 100g of MHRB, but this time using the Cyb Max Ion tek.

I have a couple of questions in regards to this, i'm sorry if my questions seem dumb, but i would just like to confirm and have piece of mind before i begin. As for now,the MHRB is being frozen to soften up those cell walls...

These are my two questions:
8. Settle to allow for separation and repeat
mix/shake x 3 (transfer should be fairly rapid).

Transfer time?
Should this be around 3-5mins for every pull?

10. Repeat Pulls x6 (with warm/hot NPS)
Combine the pulls with the NPS in the fridge .

Would the minimal amount for every pull be 50ml of solvent?
So all together, there would be a total of 9 pulls@50ml?

Thanks for any help.