Opened or closed eyes when travelling?

[just_begun]

It's generally after the trip that the reflection occurs. Pretty much the definition of integration. To bring back what you learn from the experience and incorporate it into your life. Even ego death is an opportunity to reflect on how we build concepts in our minds and apply them to everything, even that concept that we call the 'self'.

Agree with you totally there. Next time I'll try closing my eyes, so many people swear by it, just that every time I've had my eyes closed for a short duration I've felt a dip in intensity, I've always then decided to stay open. During my first breakthrough I instinctively needed to close my eyes to manage it, so I see it as being in a more defensive stance that doesn't fully embrace the experience. I only had my first experience a few months ago and have broken through 2 times so obviously I'm not expert, never had a bad trip (smoked dark leaves in pipe), can't imagine it happening neither unless it was a dodgy batch..? Thanks for reply

 

[goodnessgracious]

Eyes closed for me, the tunnel of light,fractals and colours is just so intense. With eyes open its more like a shroom or acid trip and doesnt get me to where i want to go. But then im just a novice so maybe things will change - I always open them during the trip to peek at what happening

 

[Nathanial.Dread]

Depends on the location.
If I'm in my room, I really don't care what my walls and bookshelves are doing, in which case, high dose, closed eyes all the way.

If I'm outside, in some kind of beautiful, natural place under real sunlight, I think that a sub-breakthrough, eye-open dose is much more rewarding.

Blessings
~ND

 

[What a substance]

I am about 4 - 5 months new to this business and adhere to eyes open in an indirectly sunlit room. As has been posted, when you break through it really does not matter. I only closed my eyes (once really) when I first started getting the hang of vaping and I mouthed a loud "WOW". I see my time in this business as a long term venture and so am exploring eyes open as an approach with light/moderate/strong doses until I feel I have sufficient experience to feel experienced. Then I will close my eyes and follow the same approach. After that I will probably squint and see what's doin

 

[AnAngelicProcess]

I've had breakthroughs doing both. With opened eyes, I felt less in control and actually physically tried to cover my face from the spiral "rods" flying past. It was very overwhelming. With closed eyes, I felt much more like an observer being shown, instead of relentlessly attacked, with information. Translucent beings kept making circles out of what my brain identified as a physical representation of time (even though I don't know how I decided I suddenly knew what that even looked like), and they were extremely kind and understanding about me not quite grasping what they were trying to show. Both experiences I felt the same intelligence trying to show me something, but with eyes open I felt it to be a much more chaotic and forceful reveal.

 

[Fear]

Yes. You wont be able to tell a difference between oev or cev if you are given the optimum or large enough dosage. For whatever reasons 3 seems to be the lucky number in regards to the amount of tokes it takes for me to disappear only to re-appear in what is, almost as If a nuke was set off destroying everything we once considered physical reality as well as yourself.

Get yourself a GVG, your 3 tokes will become 1:surprised .

What is this GVG?

 

[3rdI]

good afternoon Fear,

a GVG is a Glass Vapour Genie, its a glass pipe that works very well for crystals.

 

[Michal_R]

VG VaporGenie: How to use, where to get, advantages, etc - Welcome discussion - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

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