Oral DMT intake questions

[some one]

After smoking DMT about a dozen times, i'm starting to get interested in extending the duration. I have some questions who's answers would save me lots of search time. Thanks

Commonly used DMT containing plants seem to be:
- Psychotria Viridis (aka: Sami Ruca, Chacruna)
- Jurema Preta
- Mimosa Hostilis root

Can you pull tea out of all of these? What's the difference between them? What's the lower and higher end dose for each of them? Does the journey last the same duration with all herbs? How long on average? Instead of using herbs, is to possible to use pure freebase n,n-DMT crystals? How would you go about oraly consuming freebase and what dose is equivalent to smoking 50 mg?


Commonly used MAO Inhibitors seem to be:
- Banisteriopsis Caapi vine (aka: Ayahuasca, Caapi, Yajé )
- Syrian Rue seeds (aka: Esfand, Harmal, Peganum Harmala)

What's the difference between them? Do they both contain harmine, harmaline, and tetrahydroharmine? What is the lower and higher end dose for each? What's the difference between taking before or applying in the brew? If taken before, how long before? Can you also use pure harmine, harmaline, and tetrahydroharmine extract? If so, what's the difference between this and organic caapi or rue?


Commonly used combo's seem to be:
- Drinking caapi + smoking freebase DMT
- Smoking caapi extract + smoking freebase DMT

What's the added effect of taking a MAOI prior to smoking? Will the journey last longer and will tolerance decrease? How much longer? What if you make Changa (enhanced leave) with caapi vine (Ayahuasca leaves). Will you intake enough leave for caapi's MAOI properties to enhance the journey? Or do you need caapi extract for that? Whats the added effect of smoking caapi extract instead of drinking it?


I came accros these words:
- vapohuasca
- pharmahuasca

What do they mean?

That should get me more on track. Thanks again

 

[3rdI]

i think you should do some reading

if you had a specific question you couldnt find the answer to then enough but all these topics are covered extensively on the Nexus and in the end it is much more rewarding to put in the effort yourself and learn the answers plus much more along the way.

It wont take you to long, you can easily find the answers to all these questions with a few days of searching.

I would start here :thumb_up:

 

[some one]

You have a good point

Actually i've already searched this forum and taken time to find out about the various names, abbreviations and synonyms you guys use for various herbs. And which herbs to use for what. It was really confusing at first. Doing so I stumbled upon various information: tea pulling teks, dosages 4-8 g mimosa + 4-5 g rue taken 30 min before, etc. I could spend more time researching and learning a lot in the process indeed.

Then again would it hurt to have this information bundled? It is now only to be found scattered all over the place. Not even included in the nexus wiki. What is reason to have a wiki? It's to bundle information. On one side you can loose knowledge when reading only summaried info and nothing els. On the other it helps to give a general overview aiding your knowledge quest. And if old information is bundled and new idea's are created, that's progress.

Having said that, I respect your answer. I will try to search myself some more. And answer what i know here. Contributing to others. As i started already by naming and sorting everything to its use. I hope that this topic can be used as a general overview.

 

[3rdI]

it certainly wouldnt hurt your right and if its not all together then maybe it is something you could compile as you find all the relevant info and then add it to the wiki, as a plant potter you know exactly what other potters are going to ask so you could create a very usefull POI for other new members.

 

[wearepeople]

Or start here Pharmahuasca

I was really confused by the word pharmauasca when I first joined too.
I was convinced it meant using pharmaceuticals and dmt. I wouldn't even click on the thread because I just kept thinking, "ummm I'm not going to trip with pharmaceuticals as an MAOI". (I knew nothing about MAOIs at the time and just thought they were only pharmaceutical-based-anti-depressants because that was the only reference to MAOI I had ever heard at that point, silly me!)

Anyway, check it out.:d

Also I think a sticky in the pharmahuasca thread that clearly defines pharmahuasca would be helpful. The current sticky goes straight into dosages and comparisons without a clear definition.

Link to the current sticky: pharmahuasca sticky


The wiki doesn't define pharmahuasca either as an oral method of ingestion
Wiki oral ingestion

It appears the "analogues" in the wiki refer to pharmahuasca.

 

[some one]

Thanks for the tip wearepeople.

it certainly wouldnt hurt your right and if its not all together then maybe it is something you could compile as you find all the relevant info and then add it to the wiki, as a plant potter you know exactly what other potters are going to ask so you could create a very usefull POI for other new members.

Fair deal Will do my best. Will update the first post along the way until its wiki ready. Debates, opinions and contributions are welcome.

 

[some one]

I started a new topic: Everything you need to know about DMT administration methods