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Oral freebase DMT dosage poll - threshold visionary dose

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Did you vote in the poll?

SWIM can feel 10 mg orally (it's stimulating, but not a psychedelic dose), but needs 20 mg for mild visual effects. Looks like SWIM and you are close to the same ballpark figures...the lucky minority :)
 
69ron said:
Did you vote in the poll?

SWIM can feel 10 mg orally (it's stimulating, but not a psychedelic dose), but needs 20 mg for mild visual effects. Looks like SWIM and you are close to the same ballpark figures...the lucky minority
No, I did not. Mainly because I have never extracted DMT and not sure which to vote on. I guess I could vote on the 10-24 mg...

Mayas powdered mimosa(14) is really strong, so I guess it could have more than 1% dmt in it. Anyone extracted dmt from this source?

Another thing to note is that If I wait about 1-2 months, I am much more sensitive to visuals on ayahuasca. They are clear as day with very low doses. But if I drink another brew some days later, this clarity will get fainter. I think it might be something that is stirred up within me that blocks the clarity. I think that is one of the reason they do dieta in south america. It helps you stay sensitive, which makes you able to see and experience more, and with more clarity.
 
what could the explanation be for the difference between DMT in ayahuasca and pure DMT? I have never heard of anybody who needs 100 grams of chacruna or 20 grams of mimosa to have visual and psychedelic effects but there are numerous people who need over 100 mg of pure free-base DMT for this, if taken orally.
 
I'd like to note that for me visuals mainly comes when the dmt enters the system. If it enters fast, the more visuals will come. If it goes really quick, I enter into a fractal spiral both mentally and bodily. So, the visual quality is strongest in the beginning, although that is not necessarily the most potent part of the experience.
 
polytrip said:
what could the explanation be for the difference between DMT in ayahuasca and pure DMT? I have never heard of anybody who needs 100 grams of chacruna or 20 grams of mimosa to have visual and psychedelic effects but there are numerous people who need over 100 mg of pure free-base DMT for this, if taken orally.
One reason is that MHRB is rich in alkaloids! People usually extract with naphtha and get a 0.5-1%, but this is not good as a surrogate for estimating the strength of mimosa. Other people extract with xylene/tolueene/dcm and get up to 2% active alkaloids, so one may claim immediately that 10g of MHRB contain 200mg of actives, already a very strong dose for the majority.

The other reason is on the other things that MHRB (or charcruna or chaliponga) contain. A lot of other molecules, not necessarily alkaloids in nature (people tend to think that "alkaloids" are the good shit, but the many active substances need not to be alkaloidal in nature!) are in dmt-containing plants and can modulate the experience in their own way. Which way is that, we still do not know exactly yet.
 
SWIM took 12g of MHRB with and hand no visuals it was just slightly active. It's Expensive being a hard-head
 
Mayas powdered mimosa(14) is really strong, so I guess it could have more than 1% dmt in it. Anyone extracted dmt from this source?

A guy I met some years ago did, and came out with 1.7%. It may be even stronger now.

Some people report mind blowing effects from certain batches of mimosa at just a few g's.

This species can have up to 3% DMT in it as well - so go figger.

It could also be 0.4% or even lower if it is merde mimosa.
 
Since this thread was recently bumped, I'll add my 2-cents :-)


I am skinny - 5'9, 135# and probably have a fast metabolism. 2grams rue seeds do nothing for me, but 4grams + 40mg freebase gives me light CEVs.
 
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