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Ouch! Thats burns! Tips to make your smoke easier.

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xx13w7xx

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As I was trying to reach a break through this evening, I just couldn't seem to get a big enough hit. This stuff really does a toll on the lungs, throat and mouth.
Being a new comer to the world of DMT, I was wondering if anyone had any tips to "cool that smoke down"

I went through a good 200 mg (not at once) with only slight visuals, with eyes closed.
I figured this is because I keep hacking up the burn, wasting all that "new shoe" smelling smoke.

So please, a word of wisdom...
 
get a pipe like this - smoke is as soft as air -
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Perhaps the level of purity of one's space magic could be taken into account? I have personally found that a combination of 1)crystal clear (or at least near white) crystals paired with 2)a "bong", if you will, in the style of a hookah (or of like; one that can be slowly puffed to a lung-buster without burning one's lungs or throat) allows me the wildest of jungle visions, along with the added bonus of not hacking up chunks of plastic-tasting phlegm throughout the next day (a problem that I once had). It is possible to take hits in the 200-400mg range in this manner.
 
another thing is...be very very careful not to BURN the dmt..because this will cause it to be extremely harsh
 
Tips from someone who has burned his throat enough times to know:

1) Easiest and best way to get rid of the burn is to smoke it out of a bong using the leaf bed method.

2) If vaporizing is your method of choice, clean that spice! Do a quick sodium carbonate wash and a recrystalization on it (you can find the teks for these two tasks right on the nexus)

3) Reduce the amount of heat - Keep the flame further away

4) Clean out your spice pipe before or after each use. Yes some people like the residue, but it is harsh stuff, so if you are having problems with harsh smoke, clean your pipe out.

These are the things that I have found to work. My wife and my friends g/f both have very sensitive lungs and throats. They cannot smoke out of a vaporizer of any kind no matter how clean the spice or how gently it is heated. The bong is the only thing they can get monster vapor from.
 
Im SWIMs experience...
Freeze precipitated spice is so much smoother than stuff from evaporated solvent.
Try a parsley/spice/parsley sandwich in a little hand-size glass bong... don't quite touch the flame to the parsley if possible.
Also, using parsley ash instead of parsley means there's far less smoke to deal with. One could puff on some parsley first without inhaling, then use this ash to make your sandwich.
 
A eyedropper or two of mullein extract beforehand does wonders. It's a natural expectorant - coats the throat, and allows you to take and hold bigger hits. It should also help eliminate any raw throat feelings afterwards.
 
Jorkest said:
another thing is...be very very careful not to BURN the dmt..because this will cause it to be extremely harsh

So very true, and also a good method of wasting such a wonderful, precious healing potion.
 
DarkShaman said:
Perhaps the level of purity of one's space magic could be taken into account? I have personally found that a combination of 1)crystal clear (or at least near white) crystals paired with 2)a "bong", if you will, in the style of a hookah (or of like; one that can be slowly puffed to a lung-buster without burning one's lungs or throat) allows me the wildest of jungle visions, along with the added bonus of not hacking up chunks of plastic-tasting phlegm throughout the next day (a problem that I once had). It is possible to take hits in the 200-400mg range in this manner.

I really like your idea of using a hookah. I have a couple of questions pertaining.
-What do you use for your "filler"? hookah tobacco.. parsley.. ?
-Do you use water? Would this just absorb the smoke if you were to? Myth or Fact: can you use everclear?
-Do you use a "stock" bowl head? They are very large on a hookah, I would imagine this would be nearly impossible to get your break through hit if it were filled to the brim, no?
 
the one thing with everclear is...if some ember went down into the bong..or hookah..whatever..well it might explode all over your face...and that would suck going to lala land
 
Yes, a totally ignorant and really dangerous idea to bubble it through everclear! Even if it doesn't ignite, you don't want to inhale all those hot alcohol vapors..
 
xx13w7xx said:
Myth or Fact: can you use everclear?
off topic but reminds me of a time my brother was too lazy to walk to the sink to fill his bong. he proceded to fill it with single malt and take a rip. needless to say, he was not a very happy camper. if i was there i would have given him a good smack upside the head... haha

any pipe that offers water filtration has a great effect on cooling the vapor without perceivable loss in potency.
 
rellik said:
any pipe that offers water filtration has a great effect on cooling the vapor without perceivable loss in potency.

SWIM seconds that. With a bubbler, once you figure out how you want to heat it and hone your method, you'll find a total lack of muss and fuss with smoking. Clean your bowl with a reliable and safe solvent, and you should never have a problem. This way you can achieve full effect with ease and focus your efforts on more worthy concerns, like honing your extraction technique to keep up with the copious amounts of spice you'll be able to physically withstand. 😉
 
amor_fati said:
rellik said:
any pipe that offers water filtration has a great effect on cooling the vapor without perceivable loss in potency.

SWIM seconds that. With a bubbler, once you figure out how you want to heat it and hone your method, you'll find a total lack of muss and fuss with smoking. Clean your bowl with a reliable and safe solvent, and you should never have a problem. This way you can achieve full effect with ease and focus your efforts on more worthy concerns, like honing your extraction technique to keep up with the copious amounts of spice you'll be able to physically withstand. 😉

And I third that. I use a miniature version of the hookah (technically called a "hookete", but for obvious reasons I don't refer to it as that) with a thick ball of copper mesh (burned well prior to 1st use to remove any nasty coatings or otherwise that contain toxins; generally know you're good when no more black smoke comes from burning it) in a standard cone-shaped slider that goes perculator-style into the body of the bong. I puff slow & long, which allows me to pull smooth, massive hits that I previously wasn't able to even come close to without scorching the hell out of my throat & lungs (which, at the very least, certainly doesn't add to the experience) using traditional smoking methods such as straight glass, or bubble "oil inhaler" types of pipes. Hitting dmt properly is an art form & once you've perfected it you generally realize how much magic you had previously been wasting/burning.
 
tryptographer said:
Yes, a totally ignorant and really dangerous idea to bubble it through everclear! Even if it doesn't ignite, you don't want to inhale all those hot alcohol vapors..

Oh, in addition, do you know how pure alcohol kind of has a burning, astringent effect on your sinuses if you were to inhale it's vapors directly? Imagine that all the way down your throat & in your lungs. Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen, which, also, offers no apparent benefit over standard H2O.
 
DarkShaman said:
tryptographer said:
Yes, a totally ignorant and really dangerous idea to bubble it through everclear! Even if it doesn't ignite, you don't want to inhale all those hot alcohol vapors..

Oh, in addition, do you know how pure alcohol kind of has a burning, astringent effect on your sinuses if you were to inhale it's vapors directly? Imagine that all the way down your throat & in your lungs. Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen, which, also, offers no apparent benefit over standard H2O.


Sadly, it happened to me once before. But not with spice, it was with a nice bowl of cannabis inside of a little bubbler. But that bubbler had about two double shots of pure grain vodka inside. Needless to say I was already drunk, sucked embers through the slider, into the chamber and it did happen to ignite. It didn't blow up but it was enough to burn some eyelashes off. :surprised
 
Wow and LOL.

The alcohol stories are a hoot! I figured it wouldn't be the best idea to use alcohol either, my roommate just brought it up so I figured I'd throw it in with the questions.

So I figure I'm going to be doing some experiments this weekend.
I've got my bong, probably 1 foot tall... I figure this thing should do the trick with a parsley bed.
Then I'm going to try my hookah. I'm worried about the large ceramic bowl being too massive, I might try to rig a regular slide in it.
Then lastly I'm going to try a hand held bubbler, with a parsley bed. I think this might be the best way, since you have the water to cool the smoke down, and if you drop it you wont get a ton of water everywhere like the bong.

I'll let you guys know what happens!
 
Thank you!

I have found the best way for me to smoke DMT.

Blue Lotus in the Vaporgenie, 40 bucks at local smoke shop. Worth Every Penny!
 
xx13w7xx said:
Thank you!

I have found the best way for me to smoke DMT.

Blue Lotus in the Vaporgenie, 40 bucks at local smoke shop. Worth Every Penny!

Thats probably the best way to do it.

But, if you're in the mood for change... I would probably say use the bubbler. Normally you can keep the rip going, and there wouldn't be any wasted smoke from the inside of the chamber if your lungs fill up too quickly. As opposed to a footer, where... if your lungs can't handle all the smoke (capacity wise) you tend to waste some.
 
Ha! SWIM feels a little embarrassed that he's gone this long thinking that he knew what a vaporgenie was and mistakenly thinking that it was an electric vaporizer. The ceramic filter idea is great! SWIM would love to know how harsh the vapor is compared to that of a bubbler.
 
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