Passionflower MAOI ?

[CuriousChemist]

I've read about Passionflower serving as a possible maoi when taken in high dosages. since ordering caapi and rue are currently out of question (im going through a move right now and sort of don't have an actual "address" yet if that makes any sense) would passionflower (easily obtainable from a store) work? I have a bottle with little passiflora incarnata capsules, each capsule containing 350 mg of passionflower. how many capsules or grams do you think i'd need to consume to have my mao's inhibited? a rough estimate is fine. I'm not gonna smoke it because i heard smoking too much passionflower is harsh. i plan on dumping X amount of capsules into some water and having a type of crudely made MAOI-tea. then i'll sip the MAOI-tea 30 minutes before sipping my acacia confusa tea (cold water extracted) and see if that works. i tried acacia confusa tea earlier today by itself and didnt get the dmt effects although i kind of "tranquilized" myself for 10 minutes. just fell into the chair and couldn't really move or form sentences lol. it was like i was getting there but then my body destroyed the dmt (possibly disproving the idea that confusa is active without a maoi)so....how much passionflower do you think would be effective? couldn't find any answers on here, theshroomery, or any other sites for that matter. thanks guys!

 

[5-htp]

I wonder that you didn't find the answer here. The alkaloids in Passiflora incarnata are 0.1 - 0.3 (or 0.5) %. You find some extractions here yielding these yields. So it's much work for very little product..

So with 350 mg per capsule it would leave you with 100 capsules for a starter dose of around 100 to 175 mg harmalas. But maybe the full spectrum would be a bit more efficient. Let us know

Better of, buying the herb and maybe making tea of 100 to 200 G leaves, reducing the volume to a manageable amount..

This could be expensive ?

 

[emptymind]

I have never taken it orally, but sometimes I smoke a small bowl of it a couple of minutes before smoking freebase. 100% without a doubt it lengthens and changes the experience.

 

[universecannon]

ive never tried activating dmt with it...but as a tea it is great on mushrooms

 

[nen888]

..0.3% is not a bad percentage, (same as chacruna for dmt), especially if you're growing it (P. incarnata handles snow)

..in Passifloras of Interest
nen888 wrote:

...1996 p. inacarnata + acacia extract huasca experiment (an incarnata vaporized extract experiment is referred to in Voogelbreinder 2009)

"...approx. 1kg of purchased dry passiflora incarnata stem & leaf was boiled X3 in rain water...the large amount of liquid was combined and reduced over several hours, turning increasingly dark purple/brown and thick..,while still possible it was filtered several times through fine cheesecloth...a point of viscosity was reached at which 1 hypothesized dose (333grams of herb) equalled a large glass or coffee mug of thick liquid (the aromas during the process were noted to be somewhat mildly psychoactive)
...A dosage of estimated at = 400 grams herb was consumed by two subjects...5 minutes afterwards approx. 50-70mg of a. obtusifolia extract as the freebase was rapidly swallowed and chased with water/lemon juice (to remove the awful freebase aftertaste)
...Within 10 minutes strong sedative and 'anti-depressant' effects from the passiflora were felt...as these grew (without yet tryptamine effects) it was commented that this plant alone was a satisfying experience...A shiny and pleasant 'haze' surrounded lights...At around 90 minutes, after it was pondered that maybe MAO inhibition was not sufficient, tryptamine-like effects (geometries, '4D-ness', auditory) rapidly grew over 10 minutes accompanied by sudden purging...
...Both subjects found the intensity of colors beyond their previous experiments with a. extract and p. harmala or b. caapi...'fantastic bright blues, reds, purples and golden hues.'...It was subjectively judged as more sedative or narcotic than rue or caapi with a strong 'dreaminess'...rue was judged the 'clearest', caapi unique in other ways...
'It made the tryptamines very dreamy, colorful, and beautiful...very feminine.'
...After a linear 'plateau' of 30 minutes, effects gradually subsided over 2-4 hours, with a sense of sedation up to 5hrs afterwards. Overall, it was very positive...'It lacked the punch of rue, but had such a lovely dreamy quality...very sensual...'..."

 

[Jarl Von Hoother]

Yes it isn't the worst, just use enough herb! :d

from what I've read it makes mushroom visions more colorfull, elegant and more pleasant altogether. it seems very subtle- I woukd try extracting it or shop around for extracts. be careful with combining it unless you know exactly how it will affect you.

most importantly have fun and let us know how it went