Evening Glory said:
jbark said:
Case in point: If you believe that there is no DMT in MHRB, does it make it so?
Thank you for a good post. With the case in point, I would of course have to answer that no, that belief does not make it a fact. But let me use that example... If you were to convince someone that there is DMT in MHRB, how would you do it? Would you curse at the person, claiming him to be brainwashed, an idiot and perhaps even dangerous for society? Or would you point to scientific data showing that in fact there is DMT in MHRB?
Thanko you for this EG, this is what irks me about a lot of what I see going on between those who adhere to science and those who do not. Personally, I find the scientific method to be tremendously beneficial and apply it to all of my projects and a fair number of life outlooks. Yes, I do have a tendency to investigate things that qualify as "fringe" topics, but if science doesn't take a broad approach in investigating this existence, it will miss things. At the same time, science has shown some pretty ridiculous stuff to be "true" and this bolsters my belief that just because something sounds strange does not mean it can't be scientifically (or otherwise) investigated.
Burnt, I respect many of your views and find myself in agreement with a lot of what you say. There are plenty of threads where you lay into people in a manner that I relish to a degree, if not because I am incapable, then merely because I find myself both in agreement and more reserved than yourself. There are a lot of posts here that make me roll my eyes and say, really, come on guys, you can't seriously think this, but hey, such is life. My issue is that you attack people at times for being ideologues (hippy/new age/stupid/whatever) and yet, your attacks on these matters are devoid of the scientific evidence you cherish so dearly and are in fact, ideological themselves. I understand that you see these things as obvious and stupid, but do you think you'll have an easier time convincing someone who believes that the world is flat, that it is in fact round by yelling and cursing at them or by showing them footage from NASA shuttles flying around the earth? I feel you on a lot of what you say, but if you're going to attack people for a lack of evidence, then you should be (literally) dropping knowledge with your posts. The onus to change things rests on he who sees the problems.
I don't love YOU as the individual collection of viewpoints and beliefs that differentiate you from anyone else and make you "unique" (how could I, as you pointed out, I don't know you) but I do love the humanity that exists within you and is evidenced in your writing. I do love the work you have contributed to the nexus and greater community and I do love having someone to harshly voice when people are making egregious mistakes. I hope you find balance in your life beyond the nexus and wish you well in all your future scientific endeavors.
SB
EDIT: Just read the Gir stuff...
Honestly, I'd prefer it if knowledgestick killed himself rather than causing someone else to harm or kill themselves following one of his awful extraction videos. Additionally, just because you get heated doesn't mean you can't call for love. The issues that started this thread are still present, there's a lot of ego flying around on the nexus lately (I don't claim to be egoless, just sayin) and it has made some discussions unnecessarily heated or veer off track for no legitimate reason.
