perpetual motion

[polytrip]

Perpetual motion does exist, but the very reason of it's existence(the principle of entropy would encompass all the laws of nature involved) is also the reason why it will never be harnessed.
Some people (like teszla) like to speculate about harnessing vacuüm energy. Again, this will never happen. All the energy we can harness is by definition the energy difference between several energy levels and since we don't occupy the lowest level and energy cannot flow to a lower level than the lowest level.....
You could look at the universe like a box of light bulbs of wich only a few are switched on. The energy difference between the bulbs that are switched on is less than the energy of the bulbs themselves. But if you would want the bulbs to emit the energy they hold, then they would have to dissapear so they couldn't emit anything no more.

 

[flyboy]

But isn't perpetual motion by itself not quite good enough because there has to be some friction to create energy? I don't think the pm concepts ideas i've seen could actually create much energy even if they did go on forever 'cuz they don't -force- anything, am i wrong about this?

On the track about dmt realms and delusions, i would really try not to use that word, i think we delude ourselves that it is not real to some extent in order to maintain sanity, to be quite honest. Thats is what I think the whole trip is about... our consciousness supressing dimesions that don't help us survive in the material world. Heretics might use the word delusion, but first hand that's a stretch in a self-censoring direction. The first barrier that has to be premanently broken is that which states if it affects our material being it is real, and if it doesn't, it isn't. Yes, if i stick my finger in a lit match i burn, fire is real, but if a 'vision' or even a thought reaches out and ruins my week henceforth, it can be more painful, just as real. Depression abounds in our society for just this reason, people underscrore their material world and material needs, and under-rate and ignreo the immaterial world and immaterial needs... ie if it doesn't make them rich or beautiful, who needs it. Drugs are so popular and great because they embody in a physical, material way, a spiritual etheral 'something'.

I also think if you think you're a prophet, you are a prophet... a leader of one yourself. 100% valid within your own consciousness... whether you attract any followers is not important because those followers have fallen into the trap, seeking physical form to replace an immaterial need.

I agree totally that prosthelytizing or however you spell it is not a good idea, whether it's about dmt, salvia, jesus, aliens or mohammed people's instincts are to think everybody else is crazy no matter what their story is, although i do say the internet and boards such as this we should try to let our thoughts flow free and wild.