Hi all,
I'd like to ask some help for Phalaris arundinacea identification. Here's a species that I found growing in Hungary. It's growing just about everywhere, including our back yard, and it's about 1-1.5m (3-5 feet) tall. I'm 100% positive it's a phalaris species, though the online P. arundinacea photos differ quite much, so I'm not certain what it is. Here are the photo shots:
The plant:
Inflorescence:
Leafs:
Roots:
Seeds:
There's some variation in the inflorescence, some some have a similar, but more closed structure. Can anyone confirm if this is phalaris arundinacea, or a closely related species that may worth doing an extraction?
P.S. I'm not much concerned about gramine - I could not find any references whatsoever about gramine being toxic to humans, so I think it's just a myth that's kept repeated all the time. I found one short reference of gramine having no hallucinogenic properties (Gessner et al. 1961), so I guess they bioassayed it, reporting no effects (unfortunately I couldn't find the details). Trout's notes FS-X7 also reports an LD50 for gramine that's higher than DMT (44.6 mg/kg iv mice vs. 32 mg/kg iv mice for DMT), so in that sense, DMT is more toxic than gramine.
I'd like to ask some help for Phalaris arundinacea identification. Here's a species that I found growing in Hungary. It's growing just about everywhere, including our back yard, and it's about 1-1.5m (3-5 feet) tall. I'm 100% positive it's a phalaris species, though the online P. arundinacea photos differ quite much, so I'm not certain what it is. Here are the photo shots:
The plant:
Inflorescence:
Leafs:
Roots:
Seeds:
There's some variation in the inflorescence, some some have a similar, but more closed structure. Can anyone confirm if this is phalaris arundinacea, or a closely related species that may worth doing an extraction?
P.S. I'm not much concerned about gramine - I could not find any references whatsoever about gramine being toxic to humans, so I think it's just a myth that's kept repeated all the time. I found one short reference of gramine having no hallucinogenic properties (Gessner et al. 1961), so I guess they bioassayed it, reporting no effects (unfortunately I couldn't find the details). Trout's notes FS-X7 also reports an LD50 for gramine that's higher than DMT (44.6 mg/kg iv mice vs. 32 mg/kg iv mice for DMT), so in that sense, DMT is more toxic than gramine.
Anyhow, I'll post results after SWIM does some collecting and cooking.
