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Plants feelings, memories and responses.

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Vodsel

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I found today a note published in the BBC some time ago. According to researchers, "Plants perform a sort of biological light computation, using information contained in the light to immunise themselves against diseases."

You can expand the following "Spoiler" to read the whole text, or visit the Popular Science Article.


Plants are able to "remember" and "react" to information contained in light, according to researchers.​

Plants, scientists say, transmit information about light intensity and quality from leaf to leaf in a very similar way to our own nervous systems.

These "electro-chemical signals" are carried by cells that act as "nerves" of the plants.

In their experiment, the scientists showed that light shone on to one leaf caused the whole plant to respond.

And the response, which took the form of light-induced chemical reactions in the leaves, continued in the dark. This showed, they said, that the plant "remembered" the information encoded in light.

"We shone the light only on the bottom of the plant and we observed changes in the upper part," explained Professor Stanislaw Karpinski from the Warsaw University of Life Sciences in Poland, who led this research.

He presented the findings at the Society for Experimental Biology's annual meeting in Prague, Czech Republic.

"And the changes proceeded when the light was off... This was a complete surprise."

In previous work, Professor Karpinski found that chemical signals could be passed throughout whole plants - allowing them to respond to and survive changes and stresses in their environment.

But in this new study, he and his colleagues discovered that when light stimulated a chemical reaction in one leaf cell, this caused a "cascade" of events and that this was immediately signalled to the rest of the plant via a specific type of cell called a "bundle sheath cell".

The scientists measured the electrical signals from these cells, which are present in every leaf. They likened the discovery to finding the plants' "nervous system".

Thinking plants

What was even more peculiar, Professor Karpinski said, was that the plants' responses changed depending on the colour of the light that was being shone on them.

"There were characteristic [changes] for red, blue and white light," he explained.

He suspected that the plants might use the information encoded in the light to stimulate protective chemical reactions. He and his colleagues examined this more closely by looking at the effect of different colours of light on the plants' immunity to disease.

"When we shone the light for on the plant for one hour and then infected it [with a virus or with bacteria] 24 hours after that light exposure, it resisted the infection," he explained.

"But when we infected the plant before shining the light, it could not build up resistance.
[So the plant] has a specific memory for the light which builds its immunity against pathogens, and it can adjust to varying light conditions.
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He said that plants used information encrypted in the light to immunise themselves against seasonal pathogens.

"Every day or week of the season has… a characteristic light quality," Professor Karpinski explained.

"So the plants perform a sort of biological light computation, using information contained in the light to immunise themselves against diseases that are prevalent during that season."

Professor Christine Foyer, a plant scientist from the University of Leeds, said the study "took our thinking one step forward".

"Plants have to survive stresses, such as drought or cold, and live through it and keep growing," she told BBC News. "This requires an appraisal of the situation and an appropriate response - that's a form of intelligence. What this study has done is link two signalling pathways together... and the electrical signalling pathway is incredibly rapid, so the whole plant could respond immediately to high levels of light. "

This could fit easily in the Science forum, but it actually resonated with my own experience growing plants, and their unexpected responses to external stimulation that theoretically should not affect them.

I have seen, for instance, that cuttings taken from the same mother plant and placed in environments with the same light/humidity/substrate/air flow, but different ambient sounds, responded differently. They seem to like gentle ambient and whispering sounds way more than loud hums, music or street noises. And as far as we know, plants cannot hear the way we do.

So, growers in the Nexus - what are your experiences and findings? I'd like to know about any consistent results, any visible changes you have noticed in your plants after changing their growing environment in other ways than lighting, watering, soil, potting or ventilation.

What do your plants feel?
 
If DMT is indeed is the spirit molecule responsible for our consciousness; it's found most living things, so it could be possible that plants have a consciousness as well and therefore probably can feel. Many psychonauts will confirm that there is a central consciousness where we take part in. Lower developed living things probably lack the ego development that we humans have so that they always reside in that Ego-less central consciousness. Animals in general, I believe, do have egos similar to ours.
Some things just can't be proven by scientifical standards as of yet, but I think it's more likely that they do feel then the other way around. In nature a lot of things come from pre-programmed actions and responses to stimuli (including 'unexpected' ones ), probably tapped from that central consciousness into their DNA.
One of my old high school teachers used to sing to the plants in the classroom as she claimed that it was beneficial for their well-being. We all thought she was crazy but probably she was the one that was right. Well she couldn't sing that good so not so sure if it really was that good for their well-being...
 
..i believe plants have a form of consciousness..i think it makes a difference how they are treated as to how their subtle energy works during entheogenic experiences..
so, i don't think the term 'plant teacher' is purely metaphorical..
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Plants are conscious, we are nature and so is a plant. There has been many studies i can not think of them all but do recall one.

So what they did was had these clips that hooked to the leaves of a plant, which went to a machine, kind of like a lie detector, and two plants where next to each other.

One plant would then be cut, and the other plant witnesses this, and you seeing how this plant is effected, by see the other being harmed, that plant has feelings, that's pretty amazing if you ask me.
 
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