Please help

[dmtgoddess]

Hey guys so I'm on my second extraction currently with my first one being a major success with the first one me following just a basic straight to base extraction. However this time around Im following Cybs' Hybrid ATB 'Salt' Tek. I'm on my second pull now. The first barely resulting in any crystals after the evap/freeze prep. And now with the second pull I see the nap that I'm getting is extremely golden/yellow ... Was just hoping to get your opinion as to what I'm doing wrong if anything ?... Thank you for taking the time out of your day to help

 

[_Trip_]

Give us some more details what temp did you freeze precipitate at?
What's the material mimosa, acacia etc?
Yellow naphtha is fine.
Detail your process a bit more.

 

[dmtgoddess]

My bad (insert hand slap to face) I haven't freeze pre. yet. I'm extracting from mimosa using first vinegar and salt to help break down cells n all then sodium hydroxide to raise ph etc. then using naphtha. And I'm doing all that while keeping it on a warm bath/room temp back n forth heating

 

[_Trip_]

How many grams of mimosa material are you using and how much naphtha in mls have you pulled? And how many pulls?

Warm naphtha will help it hold more dmt so you're doing that right. Yellow naphtha is fine the crystals should still precipitate fine in the freezer at -20c for 24hrs.

I see this is your first posts, welcome to nexus.

 

[dmtgoddess]

Thank you very much! I love this site and it's vast wealth of knowledge! I'm very grateful for it's creators and everyone who takes the time to post their experiences and help those like me lol but here's the steps I took-
(Cybs tek)
I used around 75 to 80 g approximately of powered bark
Then brought 300 mL of distilled water and 80 mL of vinegar to a boil
Mixed with the bark
Put bottle in a heat bath and continued with a cycle of warming then leaving to room temperature throughout the whole extraction
Left bottle to soak after shaking plus random shakes for a few hours
Then 150 ml of distilled H2O heated to near boiling and added 70 g of salt then added that to the solution as well
Added 75 to 100 g of sodium hydroxide to 350 mL of distilled water, waiting for solution to cool off and making sure the sodium hydroxide was completely dissolved before slowly adding to solution (bark)
Then topped off bottle with another 140 mL of distilled H2O
Back into heat bath for a good soak (1-2 hours, maybe 3?) Shaking occasionally
Heated 70 ml of Naphtha, rolled mixture and figure eights, left to separate; repeated around 4 times
Did my first pull, Nap coming out clear but not yielding very much like my first extraction. Now I'm on my second pull and the Nap is an extremely golden yellow it's still in the freezer as of now so I'm not sure the yield quite yet.

Thank you again Trip for taking time out of your life to help me!

 

[Varallo]

I’m fairly sure the heat is causing the naphtha to pick up more color, around 60 °C is more than enough. Also, be careful when adding lye to hot liquids. Let us know what your yield is.

 

[yzhk]

im doing cyb's salt tek for my first extraction as well, except im doing a defat step before basifying the soup. my solvent was rather yellow too, apparently its not an issue, some people prefer it from what ive read (not sure why). theres a slightly more thorough explanation of the process and some optimizations in cybs "max ion" tek but its essentially the same. ive attached it to this post. it specifically states "note: Do not just double the ratios per ratio of bark" but im not sure how to adjust ratios in this case ( thats something id love to figure out if anyone has the answer...
my pulls are currently in the freezer, ill post again when i take them out

 

[dmtgoddess]

im doing cyb's salt tek for my first extraction as well, except im doing a defat step before basifying the soup. my solvent was rather yellow too, apparently its not an issue, some people prefer it from what ive read (not sure why). theres a slightly more thorough explanation of the process and some optimizations in cybs "max ion" tek but its essentially the same. ive attached it to this post. it specifically states "note: Do not just double the ratios per ratio of bark" but im not sure how to adjust ratios in this case ( thats something id love to figure out if anyone has the answer...
my pulls are currently in the freezer, ill post again when i take them out

Ok thank you very much! Good luck with your pulls! I definitely think a defatting would help! Cuz I checked on my pull in the freezer currently and it looks like how fatty oil mixed with water looks or something

 

[_Trip_]

Sounds like your process is solid. Heating the naphtha too much as varallo pointed out is the cause of the colour. It's likely picked up a few addition plant fats etc in very small amounts. This won't affect its usability or smokability however it may form a goo when freeze precipitated (unlikely with mimosa more likely with acacia). Yet, the warmer the pulls the more potential dmt will be held in the naphtha.

Once you freeze precipitate the dmt out and decant make sure you let it full dry. Some people just use a fan others tip it up side down and prop the glass dish up just a little one one side to avoid condensation issues. (If you do this do it on a tray just incase you need to recover anything that the condensation drips onto the tray).
It should crystalise nicely.

You can re-x with hot heptane as well decant and evap for better crystal quality.

Let us know how you go!

AND DONT THROW ANYTHING AWAY.

P.s Ph paper and a thermometer may help get more accurate control over basing and naphtha temp. If you want to dial it in.

 

[yzhk]

woke up to some nice crystals ) not sure if this is a good pull, source material was AATP, so not expecting crazy yields. doesnt look too gooey, so the defat must have been somewhat effective. dont want to speak too soon tho, not sure what the consistency will be when i scrape it up...

 

[_Trip_]

Yzhk, on your last pull try use xylene ot a toulene/ hexane mix you'll get goo but get more out of your material for acacia.

You'll have to evap it though.

 

[yzhk]

Yzhk, on your last pull try use xylene ot a toulene/ hexane mix you'll get goo but get more out of your material for acacia.

thanks for the tip is that just for the last pull? or is xylene better in general?

 

[_Trip_]

Just last if chasing crystals for the initial pulls.

I mean there's more than one way to skin a cat but that's a basic easy way to get better yeilds with acacia.

The goo is good for changa and enhanced leaf but can be loaded in a vapor genie or equivalent.