Please sir can I have some more ??

[Deanegartolearn]

Firstly when I joined this forum I was fascinated buy this subject ( DMT ) I inturn have asked for some advice and many have so offerd there knowledge in a very helpful way , which I really appreciate it greatly , and how else apart from reading are we new comers to learn , so I thought I'd ask for advice from the fellow nexans , which I didn't think the experienced would mind I mean that is why we're all here right to educate the public or the uninformed , well how wrong was I , I have since been told that im not Going be spoon feed the information , lol in sorry I wasn't aware I was wearing a bib or a nappy ,, I'm happy to do the hard yards but come on let's educate each other and let's not lock our experiences and knowledge up never to pass on , now that would be a waste of the wealth of information the experienced hold dear !!!

 

[3rdI]

hello Deanegartolearn

I can understand that people get annoyed when they are told that they wont be spoon fed info but the problem is that 90% of the people who complain about it are asking questions that have been answered many many times, people who use the forum a lot know that with a little searching the questions can be easily answered. there is only so many times you can answer the same questions before you start banging your head against a wall.

We frequently have people saying they have done weeks of reading but then ask very basic questions that are not only answered in the forum but also on the WIKI/FAQ, which people are asked to read through when they join the forum. It often seems that people want a quick fix answer so they can extract DMT ASAP and that is something that isn't encouraged here, we want people to be safe and that is why we like people to understand the process and not just blindly follow instruction.

If every simple question was answered the forum would be full of redundant posts and the Nexus would not be the incredible resource that it currently is. Im not sure if we are here to educate the public/uninformed, but what I am sure of is that we provide the facilities/info for the public/uninformed to educate themselves to quite a high level on the subject of DMT, amongst other things.

I think it is still fine to ask basic questions, if you need clarity, but it could help to phrase them in a way that points out you have done the reading and still don't understand, maybe add a link to another thread and say "I was reading xyz, in this thread, and I didn't quite understand this bit".

I have read the post that said you wont be spoon fed and I noticed it was about acacia in Oz, it would have been a good idea to do a search for acacia and then read through all the threads that the search throw up and then I would have also searched and read all the Australian threads, it might take you a week but you would have found your answer and learnt a lot of stuff on the way.

 

[DreaMTripper]

Yes that was me afterwards I admitted I was a little bit blunt in my initial reply and went on to direct you to the threads with a great deal of information in and hinted at certain Australian brands to use in extraction.
Even in that thread people gave you a great start regarding the process so I dont understand why you are still frustrated ,is it the actual search function itself?

d*l*b here A Few Tips for New Folks from a Regular Member... - Welcome discussion - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus goes into detail about a good way to use google to search or the simpler method is to search google and just put the keywords eg 'victorian acacia' then dmt nexus at the end.
If its Acacia in the wild you are looking to find to extract from there are no quick one post answers in how to achieve this.
First find the 'active acacia list' in the acacia info thread, then narrow it down to your area and go from there. The extraction is almost the last part of the acacia quest.
It is a long process with many red herrings even with acacia acuminata if you dont know exactly which species it is. The research is the very beginning and it takes much reading.
To identify species you should first find some by maybe using local library books take some close up photos and cross reference with somewhere like plantnet or worldwidwewattle and learn some botanical terms. Then you can start to research in a sensitive non destructive way. Maybe prune some phyllodes and carry out an extraction. Again a number of ways to go about this.

You said "I can't work out how to read the data that is writen in the passages and files" can you explain further which files you mean maybe we can clarify it but unless you are specific we dont know what you are referring to.
A couple of members posts you may want to search in are that of acacian and nen88 who have done extensive learning of acacias.
Noone is locking information away, for acacia alone there is a wealth of info on species, location, analysis and extraction.
I just dont get your stance its 3 days after the thread was made and after I directed you to where to research the info that you bring up my comment out of context.
Its understandable the forum can seem enormous at first but you soon get to familarise yourself with the navigation. Just using for example, words such as solvents in aus and victorian acacia can bring up a wealth of information where you can ask further questions if you cant find the info your'e looking for.
There is also growing your own to consider, a longer term more reliable and sustainable approach, such as an acacia or maybe psycotria nexus, I hope you find what youre looking for.

 

[Deanegartolearn]

Yes that was me afterwards I admitted I was a little bit blunt in my initial reply and went on to direct you to the threads with a great deal of information in and hinted at certain Australian brands to use in extraction.
Even in that thread people gave you a great start regarding the process so I dont understand why you are still frustrated ,is it the actual search function itself?

d*l*b here A Few Tips for New Folks from a Regular Member... - Welcome discussion - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus goes into detail about a good way to use google to search or the simpler method is to search google and just put the keywords eg 'victorian acacia' then dmt nexus at the end.
If its Acacia in the wild you are looking to find to extract from there are no quick one post answers in how to achieve this.
First find the 'active acacia list' in the acacia info thread, then narrow it down to your area and go from there. The extraction is almost the last part of the acacia quest.
It is a long process with many red herrings even with acacia acuminata if you dont know exactly which species it is. The research is the very beginning and it takes much reading.
To identify species you should first find some by maybe using local library books take some close up photos and cross reference with somewhere like plantnet or worldwidwewattle and learn some botanical terms. Then you can start to research in a sensitive non destructive way. Maybe prune some phyllodes and carry out an extraction. Again a number of ways to go about this.

You said "I can't work out how to read the data that is writen in the passages and files" can you explain further which files you mean maybe we can clarify it but unless you are specific we dont know what you are referring to.
A couple of members posts you may want to search in are that of acacian and nen88 who have done extensive learning of acacias.
Noone is locking information away, for acacia alone there is a wealth of info on species, location, analysis and extraction.
I just dont get your stance its 3 days after the thread was made and after I directed you to where to research the info that you bring up my comment out of context.
Its understandable the forum can seem enormous at first but you soon get to familarise yourself with the navigation. Just using for example, words such as solvents in aus and victorian acacia can bring up a wealth of information where you can ask further questions if you cant find the info your'e looking for.
There is also growing your own to consider, a longer term more reliable and sustainable approach, such as an acacia or maybe psycotria nexus, I hope you find what youre looking for.

I'm sorry dream tripper I wasn't referring to you're comment the other day as you were very helpful and did give me by helpful info ! Since then I have been told that I'm not going to be " spoon feed " when asking a question in the chat room , when I did ask a simple question which proberly did sound like a stupid question at the time , so I do understand a lot more after reading you're response ,, this forum is very daunting there is so much information which I want to take in an absorb all at once ,and my inexperience in this subject must show and I seem to be as my name surgests . Egar to learn lol , I certainly try to take everything in all at once wich is a mistake in itself as Terrance McKenna said you can't just go and concur Everest strait up , it takes time , sorry to all as I didn't really read the introduction properly . As I was just wanted to read everything all at once , so I think my best bet is to just start over and listen to what I read not just rush through it and just maybe I might learn something not just read paragraphs without obsorbing what's written ! Thank you and sorry if I'm coming across as ignorant !!

 

[Deanegartolearn]

Yes that was me afterwards I admitted I was a little bit blunt in my initial reply and went on to direct you to the threads with a great deal of information in and hinted at certain Australian brands to use in extraction.
Even in that thread people gave you a great start regarding the process so I dont understand why you are still frustrated ,is it the actual search function itself?

d*l*b here A Few Tips for New Folks from a Regular Member... - Welcome discussion - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus goes into detail about a good way to use google to search or the simpler method is to search google and just put the keywords eg 'victorian acacia' then dmt nexus at the end.
If its Acacia in the wild you are looking to find to extract from there are no quick one post answers in how to achieve this.
First find the 'active acacia list' in the acacia info thread, then narrow it down to your area and go from there. The extraction is almost the last part of the acacia quest.
It is a long process with many red herrings even with acacia acuminata if you dont know exactly which species it is. The research is the very beginning and it takes much reading.
To identify species you should first find some by maybe using local library books take some close up photos and cross reference with somewhere like plantnet or worldwidwewattle and learn some botanical terms. Then you can start to research in a sensitive non destructive way. Maybe prune some phyllodes and carry out an extraction. Again a number of ways to go about this.

You said "I can't work out how to read the data that is writen in the passages and files" can you explain further which files you mean maybe we can clarify it but unless you are specific we dont know what you are referring to.
A couple of members posts you may want to search in are that of acacian and nen88 who have done extensive learning of acacias.
Noone is locking information away, for acacia alone there is a wealth of info on species, location, analysis and extraction.
I just dont get your stance its 3 days after the thread was made and after I directed you to where to research the info that you bring up my comment out of context.
Its understandable the forum can seem enormous at first but you soon get to familarise yourself with the navigation. Just using for example, words such as solvents in aus and victorian acacia can bring up a wealth of information where you can ask further questions if you cant find the info your'e looking for.
There is also growing your own to consider, a longer term more reliable and sustainable approach, such as an acacia or maybe psycotria nexus, I hope you find what youre looking for.

This is the some of the data I can't understand

The Acacia Analysis Thread - Plant Analysis and Substance Testing - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

 

[Jin]

"the forum is already full of many redundant posts"

also deanegartolearn what is it that you cant understand about "the acacia analysis thread " , it simply tells you how much DMT or other molecules are in a plant , i also tells you whether the leaf/phyllodes or the bark was used for the results ,

what is it that is so hard to understand about all this ?

please people :?:

 

[DreaMTripper]

This is the some of the data I can't understand
The Acacia Analysis Thread - Plant Analysis and Substance Testing - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

No problem here you didnt come across as ignorant just frustrated..if its completely new to you it probably all looks very complicated which is why you have to start at the beginning and in your own area.

The acacia analysis thread as Jin said is the chemical analysis of the various alkaloids and tryptamines present in the samples prepared.
Its not really a good place to start your learning I would start with identifying a species of acacia in your area from the 'active acacia list'
So lets start over and go back to your original question of the best acacia to extract from..
First look down the list for the highest percentage ones on the list.. Check on worldwidewattle using the area search function to see if its in your state/area. Make sure not to target endangered species.
If not check the next one down, and so on.
If WA its simply acacia acuminata, narrow PHYLLODES strain is the best. Prune phyllodes and/or branch concisely with sharp seceters. Follow the BLAB tek thats on the nexus wiki or there are a couple of acid-base teks tweaked for phyllodes.
For other states in Aus psychoactive extracts are not so easily found.
Once you've found a reasonable yielding strain thats in your area then you should go looking for one to take a close up photo to get confirmation in the 'acacia ID thread' Or you can use a flora and fauna book. This is when you need to learn some botanical terms..
Finding the right tree is the difficult part as I said before and you will probably have to search through library and tourist books. Word of advice; dont bother with suburban trees.
Welcome to the nexus by the way enjoy the quest

 

[Deanegartolearn]

This is the some of the data I can't understand
The Acacia Analysis Thread - Plant Analysis and Substance Testing - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

No problem here you didnt come across as ignorant just frustrated..if its completely new to you it probably all looks very complicated which is why you have to start at the beginning and in your own area.

The acacia analysis thread as Jin said is the chemical analysis of the various alkaloids and tryptamines present in the samples prepared.
Its not really a good place to start your learning I would start with identifying a species of acacia in your area from the 'active acacia list'
So lets start over and go back to your original question of the best acacia to extract from..
First look down the list for the highest percentage ones on the list.. Check on worldwidewattle using the area search function to see if its in your state/area. Make sure not to target endangered species.
If not check the next one down, and so on.
If WA its simply acacia acuminata, narrow PHYLLODES strain is the best. Prune phyllodes and/or branch concisely with sharp seceters. Follow the BLAB tek thats on the nexus wiki or there are a couple of acid-base teks tweaked for phyllodes.
For other states in Aus psychoactive extracts are not so easily found.
Once you've found a reasonable yielding strain thats in your area then you should go looking for one to take a close up photo to get confirmation in the 'acacia ID thread' Or you can use a flora and fauna book. This is when you need to learn some botanical terms..
Finding the right tree is the difficult part as I said before and you will probably have to search through library and tourist books. Word of advice; dont bother with suburban trees.
Welcome to the nexus by the way enjoy the quest

Thank you DreaMTripper I am enjoying the site a lot more now I have settled down and reading material I can understand as I misread this topic as something ( you get , smoke , and trip out ) now I'm seeing with clarity lol that's its a lot more to dmt then meets the eye , but as I said I'm very fascinated with this thing all I wanted to take everything in in one day as now I realize it's a work in progress ,thank you for pointing me in the direction into learning this fascinating topic !! Many happy dreams fellow tripper lol !

 

[RoGu3]

I think people should learn to use google if its such a basic question.. if its something really specific then that's when people should chime in, other than that its already been explained a million times most likely

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

if people don't willingly answer a question...

its probably because its the kind of question that has been answered hundreds of times on the forums, and could be found by searching.

or is a super basic fact that you should have picked up in the FAQ or something...

if it is a question that is fairly novel (in that it hadn't been asked more than a couple times), or not easily found/understood, then most nexians would be happy to help.

its just if you get asked the same questions over and over (and over and over) by a variety of new members, you start to question the ostensible beneficence of a straightforward answer.