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Poorly understood family of AYAHUASCA vines
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tHE DESCRIPTION OF THE NEXT PHOTOS ARE :
bANISTERIOPSIS MURICATA VAR.BRUJOHUASCA
SECOND PHOTO IS : DIPLOPTERYS CABRERANA VR. AZUL PEZKU (BLUE TURKEY)
THIRD PHOTO IS DIPLOPTERYS CABRERANA VAR. PUNTA DE LANZA
4TH PHOTO IS BANISTERIOPSIS MURICATA SEEDS .
im from colombia (but im not promoting the plants) and try to cook some yage with these plants
my first attemp for makig yage y use 20 gr of red caapi(tigrehuasca) (red caapi is called tigrehuasca) but is b.caapi
and 60 grs of psychotria alba. Nothing happend
seccond try : cook 60 grs of leaves of b. muricata : nothing happend
3th try: cooking with cidify thechniques with vinegar and reducing techniques : nothing happend
4th try :cooking only b.muricata sterms and reducing : nothing happend
5th try cooking b. muricata sterms and leaves reducing and adify : nothing happend
the next attemp i going to extract the alks with HCL technique of adiwa's tek ( venezuelan friend)
bANISTERIOPSIS MURICATA VAR.BRUJOHUASCA
SECOND PHOTO IS : DIPLOPTERYS CABRERANA VR. AZUL PEZKU (BLUE TURKEY)
THIRD PHOTO IS DIPLOPTERYS CABRERANA VAR. PUNTA DE LANZA
4TH PHOTO IS BANISTERIOPSIS MURICATA SEEDS .
im from colombia (but im not promoting the plants) and try to cook some yage with these plants
my first attemp for makig yage y use 20 gr of red caapi(tigrehuasca) (red caapi is called tigrehuasca) but is b.caapi
and 60 grs of psychotria alba. Nothing happend
seccond try : cook 60 grs of leaves of b. muricata : nothing happend
3th try: cooking with cidify thechniques with vinegar and reducing techniques : nothing happend
4th try :cooking only b.muricata sterms and reducing : nothing happend
5th try cooking b. muricata sterms and leaves reducing and adify : nothing happend
the next attemp i going to extract the alks with HCL technique of adiwa's tek ( venezuelan friend)
Here in the tread have some pyths
the first myth is about the identification of diplopterys cabrerana ( have nectaries in front of the leaves)
the second : caapi and some varieties changed of name and changed of indigenous cultures .. some vines are called "monohuasca" and is called in other culturies like "caupuri"
so red caapi still existing like banisteriopsis caapi
banisteriopsis muricata is "yage of the sorcerers " or "ayahuasca brujo" in other culturies is called "rainbow yage"
some diplopterys cabrerana (and other kind of diplopterys) still having used for indigenous cultures around all colombia
and some culturies like inga , kofan called it "chacruna" or "huambisa"
so i have some photos to help the identification of these vines
the first myth is about the identification of diplopterys cabrerana ( have nectaries in front of the leaves)
the second : caapi and some varieties changed of name and changed of indigenous cultures .. some vines are called "monohuasca" and is called in other culturies like "caupuri"
so red caapi still existing like banisteriopsis caapi
banisteriopsis muricata is "yage of the sorcerers " or "ayahuasca brujo" in other culturies is called "rainbow yage"
some diplopterys cabrerana (and other kind of diplopterys) still having used for indigenous cultures around all colombia
and some culturies like inga , kofan called it "chacruna" or "huambisa"
so i have some photos to help the identification of these vines
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to give some explains to the photos :
1st: natural enviroment of banisteriopsis muricata growing in dry tropical forest of bucaramanga city from colombia
2st: inside banisteriopsis muricata vine after 2 min of making the cut they begin to exude red liquids
3th: banisteriopsis muricata leaves and flowers : flowers are same of caapi but the only diference is that the flowers are red, purple , palid red , pink and white
- the leaves of banisteriopsis muricata still having nectaries back of the leaves they have a invasive growing eating all plants around
4th: ayahuasca trueno . yage trueno , truenohuasca (called like this in some cultures like : inga , kofan , kamnsa , criollo in colombia) but still having like banisteriopsis caapi (have nectaries back , and changes some forms in the leaves ) but still having banisteriopsis caapi identification
the motive what this vine is called black thunder ayahuasca is because the sterms turns black when are young and the alkaloid content in the sterms is highly in THH , they react at UV light , curiously the yage when is cooked with these vines are super potent and just long 1 hour the effects
5th: these red vine is red caapi (still having banisteriopsis caapi identification) these vines are called tigrehuasca or ayahuasca tigre or jaguar ayahuasca
the banisteriopsis muricata have some white hairs back of the leaves , sometimes it turns red depending the altitude
the banisteriopsis muricata seeds are red when are fresh and turns gold when are old
1st: natural enviroment of banisteriopsis muricata growing in dry tropical forest of bucaramanga city from colombia
2st: inside banisteriopsis muricata vine after 2 min of making the cut they begin to exude red liquids
3th: banisteriopsis muricata leaves and flowers : flowers are same of caapi but the only diference is that the flowers are red, purple , palid red , pink and white
- the leaves of banisteriopsis muricata still having nectaries back of the leaves they have a invasive growing eating all plants around
4th: ayahuasca trueno . yage trueno , truenohuasca (called like this in some cultures like : inga , kofan , kamnsa , criollo in colombia) but still having like banisteriopsis caapi (have nectaries back , and changes some forms in the leaves ) but still having banisteriopsis caapi identification
the motive what this vine is called black thunder ayahuasca is because the sterms turns black when are young and the alkaloid content in the sterms is highly in THH , they react at UV light , curiously the yage when is cooked with these vines are super potent and just long 1 hour the effects
5th: these red vine is red caapi (still having banisteriopsis caapi identification) these vines are called tigrehuasca or ayahuasca tigre or jaguar ayahuasca
the banisteriopsis muricata have some white hairs back of the leaves , sometimes it turns red depending the altitude
the banisteriopsis muricata seeds are red when are fresh and turns gold when are old
to give some explains to the photos :
1st: natural enviroment of banisteriopsis muricata growing in dry tropical forest of bucaramanga city from colombia
2st: inside banisteriopsis muricata vine after 2 min of making the cut they begin to exude red liquids
3th: banisteriopsis muricata leaves and flowers : flowers are same of caapi but the only diference is that the flowers are red, purple , palid red , pink and white
- the leaves of banisteriopsis muricata still having nectaries back of the leaves they have a invasive growing eating all plants around
4th: ayahuasca trueno . yage trueno , truenohuasca (called like this in some cultures like : inga , kofan , kamnsa , criollo in colombia) but still having like banisteriopsis caapi (have nectaries back , and changes some forms in the leaves ) but still having banisteriopsis caapi identification
the motive what this vine is called black thunder ayahuasca is because the sterms turns black when are young and the alkaloid content in the sterms is highly in THH , they react at UV light , curiously the yage when is cooked with these vines are super potent and just long 1 hour the effects
5th: these red vine is red caapi (still having banisteriopsis caapi identification) these vines are called tigrehuasca or ayahuasca tigre or jaguar ayahuasca
the banisteriopsis muricata have some white hairs back of the leaves , sometimes it turns red depending the altitude
the banisteriopsis muricata seeds are red when are fresh and turns gold when are old
1st: natural enviroment of banisteriopsis muricata growing in dry tropical forest of bucaramanga city from colombia
2st: inside banisteriopsis muricata vine after 2 min of making the cut they begin to exude red liquids
3th: banisteriopsis muricata leaves and flowers : flowers are same of caapi but the only diference is that the flowers are red, purple , palid red , pink and white
- the leaves of banisteriopsis muricata still having nectaries back of the leaves they have a invasive growing eating all plants around
4th: ayahuasca trueno . yage trueno , truenohuasca (called like this in some cultures like : inga , kofan , kamnsa , criollo in colombia) but still having like banisteriopsis caapi (have nectaries back , and changes some forms in the leaves ) but still having banisteriopsis caapi identification
the motive what this vine is called black thunder ayahuasca is because the sterms turns black when are young and the alkaloid content in the sterms is highly in THH , they react at UV light , curiously the yage when is cooked with these vines are super potent and just long 1 hour the effects
5th: these red vine is red caapi (still having banisteriopsis caapi identification) these vines are called tigrehuasca or ayahuasca tigre or jaguar ayahuasca
the banisteriopsis muricata have some white hairs back of the leaves , sometimes it turns red depending the altitude
the banisteriopsis muricata seeds are red when are fresh and turns gold when are old
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What an awesome thread. Such a shame most of the contributors seem to have disappeared.
Last night, the thought came to me to brew my own aya and do a ceremony (or two).
It's been about ten years since my last (2 night) ceremony. I drank a brew that came from a shaman in Peru that a friend has worked extensively with. Strangely, I did not purge either night, as I have always done every time I drank before. I went quite deep, and there were some background visuals, but nothing crazy, and a lot of unpleasantness and groaning etc.
At the end of the second night, when things had pretty much subsided totally, I was on the toilet, wondering if I should make myself sick. Then the download came:
"YOU JUST NEED TO BE YOURSELF"
Oh, nice, I thought. Then...
"AND THIS REQUIRES SOBRIETY"
Bugger, I thought.
Well, for the last ten years, I have not been sober. My chronic use of MJ continued, as well as drinking and various other chemicals.
Just before this new year, however, I stopped smoking, cut my drinking right back, and started my regular Ashtanga vinyasa practice again. I am having one 'cheat day' a week, where I have a little bud and a few drinks, but this feels like the sobriety Aya told me I needed, or as close as I can get at present.
I have thought about doing an aya ceremony over the last years, but as I had not actioned the message I got so clearly from Aya last time, thought it would be a waste of time and disrespectful. Like, what was I doing back again, when I had not listened?
It feels like now is the time to return and seek more guidance, and making my own brew feels like a good way to do this.
Having read about making the medicine, I would like to use a more authentic brew, and not the MHRB I extract to make changa. Could anyone suggest a recipe?
Ommmmm.
Peace.
Last night, the thought came to me to brew my own aya and do a ceremony (or two).
It's been about ten years since my last (2 night) ceremony. I drank a brew that came from a shaman in Peru that a friend has worked extensively with. Strangely, I did not purge either night, as I have always done every time I drank before. I went quite deep, and there were some background visuals, but nothing crazy, and a lot of unpleasantness and groaning etc.
At the end of the second night, when things had pretty much subsided totally, I was on the toilet, wondering if I should make myself sick. Then the download came:
"YOU JUST NEED TO BE YOURSELF"
Oh, nice, I thought. Then...
"AND THIS REQUIRES SOBRIETY"
Bugger, I thought.
Well, for the last ten years, I have not been sober. My chronic use of MJ continued, as well as drinking and various other chemicals.
Just before this new year, however, I stopped smoking, cut my drinking right back, and started my regular Ashtanga vinyasa practice again. I am having one 'cheat day' a week, where I have a little bud and a few drinks, but this feels like the sobriety Aya told me I needed, or as close as I can get at present.
I have thought about doing an aya ceremony over the last years, but as I had not actioned the message I got so clearly from Aya last time, thought it would be a waste of time and disrespectful. Like, what was I doing back again, when I had not listened?
It feels like now is the time to return and seek more guidance, and making my own brew feels like a good way to do this.
Having read about making the medicine, I would like to use a more authentic brew, and not the MHRB I extract to make changa. Could anyone suggest a recipe?
Ommmmm.
Peace.
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