Possible citrate salt

[KloudQ7]

A few years ago I posted about an accidental experiment that happened while I was learning to play with spice, I made a powder from citric acid and dmt which was quite active though less potent than most salts. It was talked about here a bit but the post went off topic and I kind of forgot. Here's what happened

I had i bunch of jars with crystals all over them. I dissolved some citric acid crystals into H2O and washed out all the jars. The solution turned yellowish. I wanted to base this to rescue any alkaloids, but i did not have the base at the time. So...

I placed the solution in the freezer to save for later.
I took it out a few days later, and placed it in a warm water bath to thaw.
When the solution was fully liquid i looked at the jar, the solution had become slightly clearer and there was a layer of powder on the bottom.
This was filtered and the solution placed back in the freezer.
The yellowish powder was set to dry.
Once the solution was frozen once more, it was thawed immediately at a slightly higher temperature.
Once again the solution cleared up a bit and there was a little less powder than before, but slightly whiter too.
I managed to do this about 7 times before there was no powder precipitating and the water had turned clear again (also the solution now tasted mostly like water, barely any DMT or citric acid flavor.
I came out with 2 different powders a coarse yellowish powder that i crushed up a bit finer after. And a fine pure white powder came out of the later pulls

I don't have the pics anymore but they are on my old thread "dmt salts" . I've been thinking about trying to recreate the results lately but I'm out of spice and my car is broken, so no way to go bark hunting. Though as soon as I get mobile I will try again

Any thoughts?

 

[downwardsfromzero]

I remember that thread, and finding it quite interesting at the time. Can you include a link to it?

It's definitely worth repeating the experiment so I would encourage other forum members to do their bit in the name of science! DMT salts which crystallise cleanly from water are few and far between so I think this work is quite important.

It also ties in to some extent to my recent and ongoing investigation of how freebase DMT crashes out from aqueous ethanol in the freezer.



It seems a shame that you have to rely on having a car for transport - is there really no alternative?

 

[KloudQ7]

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There's the link,

It would be cool if someone could figure this out before I do. I'm sure I'll get it eventually though.

The acacia trees I pick from are quite far away. I could get on the bus or hitchhike but it's hard to transport roots that way.

 

[downwardsfromzero]

Bike trailers are great

I think I'd need to take an aeroplane to get anywhere near harvestable Acacias.


Your experiment is actually one of those I'd like to replicate; if I have the time I'll be trying it out after Easter.

 

[KloudQ7]

They are invasive where I live. Miles of acacia. Let me know how it goes. Ill do the same.