Psychedelics and Offspring

[anne halonium]

no kids.
dont like kids.
kids shouldnt eat hallucinogens.

i have serious issues with preggos eating hallucinogens.
ive seen that with wing girls and am always disgusted.

dont think peeps should grow or have have kids in clan labs either.
toddlers as lab assistants is criminal IMO.


that said i ate hallucinogens constantly as a kid (14 and up)
i have tirpped with minors over the yrs,
but ONLY when they are holding their own goodies.
i refuse to feed peeps under 21 personally.

i listen to the offspring alot, great band.
id definitely give trips to them.
ive tripped with lots of bands.

 

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edit: Decided to add something constructive...sorry takes me a minute sometimes.

First, I think it's clear no responsible person would dose children, and I think the word choice "offspring" is meant to imply mature and of appropriate age. With that out of the way...

It seems like everyone has a "one size fits all" answer to whether they'd share entheogens with mature offspring. If someone asked you if you'd share psychs with any 20-something, it would of course depend on the individual.

It's my true feeling that psychedelics can heal individuals and maybe even larger society, so why would I recoil from sharing with my adult child if they're on the same path?

 

[Hiyo Quicksilver]

Stop trying to teach children.
Alan once said that wisdom does not come from above down, but from below up.
Children. That's where the wisdom is. Just like the fresh air in the spring. It needs no guidance.

Well, if that's not one of the more beautiful things I've heard... Perfectly said.

 

[downwardsfromzero]

So glad to find this thread resurfaced, after having missed it the first time around; so many wise and interesting things said, from a good variety of perspectives. I've such an appreciation for this place, you know. Time and again people write stuff that brings tears to my eyes for all the right reasons. Thank you!

Now, back to the matter in hand. If it looked as though my kids were getting into drugs, I would at least do what I could to ensure they got hold of the right ones and used them wisely and safely, having first quizzed them on whether they were sure they knew what they were doing (and why). Ideally we'd have already broached the subject as it's highly likely that they'll encounter some for of 'drugs education' at school.

With any luck, prior to that (hypothetical) point, they'll have at least picked up how to find reliable information on the subject (it's not like I'll be hiding my pharmacology books from them). Another thing about psychedelics nowadays is that, while on the one hand we have psilocybin, mescaline and DMT with their well established safety profiles and relative ease of obtaining safely from natural sources, on the other hand there's stuff like the NBOMe series and the dragonFLY range of substances, which are considerably less safe and have already been directly linked to the deaths of a number of people.

SOOO... while it shouldn't be for a fair few years yet, I'll be keeping an eye out for a time where I may have to give the kids a few pointers in the realms of psychedelic safety. Plus, one of them is bright but daft, the other is one smart cookie.

I'm gonna play it by ear, but I certainly wouldn't give them psychoactive substances just for the sake of it, whether they were 15 or 50. Chances are they'll think I'm far too uncool to do that kind of thing with them anyhow!

 

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Another thing about psychedelics nowadays is that, while on the one hand we have psilocybin, mescaline and DMT with their well established safety profiles and relative ease of obtaining safely from natural sources, on the other hand there's stuff like the NBOMe series and the dragonFLY range of substances, which are considerably less safe and have already been directly linked to the deaths of a number of people.

This is big. My 14 year old son has an interest in psychedelics, and we have a (I think) honest communication about these things. Heck, right now he says he wants to work in psychedelic research at the Hefter Research Institute (because psilocybin is natural and MAPS works is with a synth).

He has not tried any psychs, unless you consider cannabis a psych.

He says he knows friends who have taken LSD, but he's aware that there are more dangerous substitutes out there, and because of that he wants to eventually try mushrooms or mescaline that he has a hand in creating or can trace the source only.

I am positive that my idea of appropriate age will be later than his idea of appropriate age, so I guarantee I won't have a hand in his initial psychedelic experiences, but he is knowledgeable already beyond what many adult explorers ever care to learn.

I would never push my children towards anything, but this young man is his own person, and he is a bright and creative force and I suspect he will get the big messages loud and clear, and would feel he'd missed an important human experience to never delve in.