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Pure DMT-N-oxide: Suprising results

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SWIM
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While there has been many talks about white DMT vs Yellow DMT and since white DMT turns yellow with oxidation it seems that the yellow "contamination" is DMT-N-oxide.

SWIM has tested out and seen the difference between pure white, slightly yellow, dark yellow and now pure yellowish brown DMT-N-oxide.

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The DMT-N-oxide was made by dissolving 135mg of snow white DMT in Acetone then adding and equal part 3% Hydrogen peroxide
then leaving overnight for evaporation.

Scraping the goo around quickly crystallized the product but after being open to the air it became gooey again so it seems the product is very hygroscopic.

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Anyway SWIM smoked it 3 different times and got some surprising results:

From SWIM's psychedelic journal:


Entry 1

10:57am
Just smoked 12-15mg of Pure DMT-N-Oxide I made.

The effects were mild and slight LSD-like OEVs and No clear CEVs

The taste was really weird and not too much like DMT at all, not particularly harsh though.


Entry 2

9:17pm
Smoked what SHOULD be 33mg of DMT-N-Oxide and my pupils are dilated but no tracers or CEVS. Only a slight fuzz in the vision while opening the eyes....

Odd.


Entry 3

11:46am
Getting ready to smoke the rest of the DMT-N-oxide, I'll just load it all up and feel out the dose.

11:51am

"it was fine. But it wasn't really DMT'ee. Hahahahahahaha"

While on the nice afterglow from DMT-N-oxide

*rushes to the kitchen remembering the evaporating vinegar-jimjam and VERY clumsily dissolves it at sets up the new evaporation*

I mean I dissolved 135mg of of pure white into the acetone-peroxide and I have yet to have strong visuals... and it is pretty much gone.

Up in smoke would be proper because it DOES produce a lot of DMT smoke, though with a slightly different taste.

SWIM might make another batch and try 60mg in one go to experience a full N-oxide experience. If he does he'll reply with the results.


Conclusion: So while a mix of DMT-N-oxide and Pure N-N-DMT may produce great and strong effects it seems that pure DMT-N-oxide is very weak by weight and not a great way to experience smoked DMT because of the amount needed to smoke
 
my gerbil did this also. He used some food grade peroxide that he got from an online vendor that sells it as a medicinal treatment. It was reported to be 95% I believe...although the container only says food grade. I had read that you needed high grade peroxide to do it (guess i was wrong) 99% peroxide is super pricey

He had nearly the same results as you on the first try (total letdown). Got about 80mg on some mullein that may go down tonight. Interested to see what you have to say about your next try.
 
SWIM tried Oral DMT-N-oxide yesterday and got some surprising results!

9:14
just took ~100mg of the rue harmalas and 33.25mg DMT-N-Oxide via 2 gelcaps, don't really expect too much but I'm ready for anything.

9:25
should have had massive nausea by now. Either it is inactive or just different.

9:43

definitely active beyond the harmalas... that's for sure..

I was sitting down in the dark and I was like "whoa!"

I have tracers and interesting mental effects.

9:50 mild CEVs but pretty and strong (relatively) mental effects

10:43
Played puzzle games on the xbox and very quickly the and I felt pretty normal at least DMT-wise, now I feel a bit harmala'ee but not DMT'ee at all.

11:31
still about the same, only feeling the harmalas now.

So it seems pretty odd. The DMT-N-oxide gave effects in almost identical strength to white DMT but with MUCH shorter duration and somewhat less nausea. Very interesting.

The trip was not strong enough to observe any clear difference between the effects of the N-oxides vs the NN-DMT.
 
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