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purifying black honey spice. & ACV?
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You should post a picture so we can see what you mean.
Many swimmers would suggest that black spice means hazardous byproducts are contaminating your product. If it is truly black, I would be inclined to agree.
That being said, there is more to be had in a Mimosa extraction than white spice.
I have found a number of suitable tan grades.
Since you are in doubt, you should cleanup the product you have.
- There are a number of methods for doing this
Such stirring your product into some warm naptha, separating the impurities, and freeze precipitating again.
Many swimmers would suggest that black spice means hazardous byproducts are contaminating your product. If it is truly black, I would be inclined to agree.
That being said, there is more to be had in a Mimosa extraction than white spice.
I have found a number of suitable tan grades.
Since you are in doubt, you should cleanup the product you have.
- There are a number of methods for doing this
Such stirring your product into some warm naptha, separating the impurities, and freeze precipitating again.
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Why is it black? Did you extract it yourself, and if so, how? If you didnt, ask your friend who extracted. If its not a close friend who extracted and can tell you with details all the process and chemicals used, throw it away and extract yourself
ACV will work, but there is lots of plant matter in there from the apples. i would use distilled white vinegar.
i've found easiest way to clean up really dirty spice is to dissolve it in white vinegar, filter, than freebase it with lye and recover clean spice with naphtha. Dirty brown comes out sparkly white in one pass in my experience. simple recrystal/freeze precips/sodium carbonate washes dont do much for really dirty spice. i actually did this over the weekend and took pics, just waiting for everything to freeze precip now before i put the step by step pictorial up before i make the thread.
i've found easiest way to clean up really dirty spice is to dissolve it in white vinegar, filter, than freebase it with lye and recover clean spice with naphtha. Dirty brown comes out sparkly white in one pass in my experience. simple recrystal/freeze precips/sodium carbonate washes dont do much for really dirty spice. i actually did this over the weekend and took pics, just waiting for everything to freeze precip now before i put the step by step pictorial up before i make the thread.
black jungle honey spice somewhat resembles this
which according to this thread, should be, perfectly normal?
I'm not sure I would want to purify it actually, it's very smooth, but still, I would like to know what I'm putting in my *metaphysical* body
*this is a post by a fictional metaphysician*
which according to this thread, should be, perfectly normal?
https://mycotopia.net/forums/holding-tank/33299-jungle-spice-mystery-alkaloids-mimosa-root-bark.html
I'm not sure I would want to purify it actually, it's very smooth, but still, I would like to know what I'm putting in my *metaphysical* body
*this is a post by a fictional metaphysician*
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bomshiva said:black jungle honey spice somewhat resembles this
which according to this thread, should be, perfectly normal?
https://mycotopia.net/forums/holding-tank/33299-jungle-spice-mystery-alkaloids-mimosa-root-bark.html
I'm not sure I would want to purify it actually, it's very smooth, but still, I would like to know what I'm putting in my *metaphysical* body
*this is a post by a fictional metaphysician*
The shroomery's no place to go for your info. IF IT'S BLACK IN ANY WAY THAT MEANS YOU HAVE GOTTEN THE BASIC SOLUTION IN YOUR FINAL PRODUCT, MEANING HIGH POTENTIAL FOR LYE CONTAMINATION/HARSH PLANT OILS/FATS/ETC. THAT IS NOT GOOD.
Like the others have said. Use white distilled vinegar, do a min-AB, do pulls, freeze.
And above (and maybe I'm not reading correctly) you stated "I'm not sure I would want to purify it actually, it's pretty smooth" !?!?!?!? You had several people just tell you to clean up your product or throw it out and start anew (if you dont do a mini ab) and yet you still tried it? Are you listening to what people are telling you here?
Be safe man. And listen to what many of the nexus members are telling you here.
Mister_Niles
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Well, that picture is from an old Entropymancer post, so it's probably full spectrum extract. The picture is not a picture of OP's spice. He SHOULD throw it away. He has no idea what it is. Unless he did extract it or got it from a friend who did. I doubt it since he's not answering any questions relating to how it was extracted. I have a feeling it was extracted from some dudes pocket using paper currency as a solvent.
I could be wrong of course. OP, post some pics. I've had full spectrum extract that was brick red, but looked black after awhile. Is the spice powder or solid?
I could be wrong of course. OP, post some pics. I've had full spectrum extract that was brick red, but looked black after awhile. Is the spice powder or solid?
look, this is food grade spice and I don't want any of your napatha or lye anywhere near my entheogens. Dark/red brown can appear black because it's dark enough to stop light from entering it, but when the material is spread out more it is a more of a golden color. Maybe some of the apple cider vinegar was burnt or something. Anyways, I have no qualms with burnt apple cider vinegar if that indeed is what is causing the coloration, though judging from other pictures of jungle spice this is perfectly normal.
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That's a food grade mess of a spice, then....
I've extracted DMT many times using foodgrade solvents or otherwise, and Ive never ever came across black spice.
If I were you I would clean it up: redissolve in acid, rebase, resalt and convert to freebase as BLAB says. Or at the very least mix with sodium carbonate, pull with dry acetone/IPA/ethanol and evap. If you're doing the q21 acetate-evap conversion, I would not recommend doing that because it leaves impurities in the spice which are not pleasant to smoke IMO (possibly irritating/toxic depending on whats there, which we cant know without analysis). Better re-A/Bing it all...
And use pure distilled white vinegar (with no additives) or pure acetic acid to salt instead next time.
I've extracted DMT many times using foodgrade solvents or otherwise, and Ive never ever came across black spice.
If I were you I would clean it up: redissolve in acid, rebase, resalt and convert to freebase as BLAB says. Or at the very least mix with sodium carbonate, pull with dry acetone/IPA/ethanol and evap. If you're doing the q21 acetate-evap conversion, I would not recommend doing that because it leaves impurities in the spice which are not pleasant to smoke IMO (possibly irritating/toxic depending on whats there, which we cant know without analysis). Better re-A/Bing it all...
And use pure distilled white vinegar (with no additives) or pure acetic acid to salt instead next time.
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